Terraforming with Nukes

Apolex · June 18, 2002, 12:34

Late in the game needing a boost in production, I found myself contemplating using nukes in a most unconventional way. I had a bunch of cities surrounded by rabbit-food (grasslands) giving piss-poor production. I also had a few tactical nukes lying around and about 100 workers who were mainly just sitting around in cities.

So I made sure everyone was wearing their blast glasses and detonated about 4 nukes in grassland areas around my cities, making sure none of the cities actually felt the effects of the blasts. In about 2 turns, all the pollution had dutifully been cleaned up by my workers, and I had terraformed lots of squares into more productive land.

I don't know if this has been talked about in the Strat. forum (sorry I don't read it). Anybody else try this?

-Apolex

Space05us · June 18, 2002, 12:39

sounds like a good plan, I'll have to try that.

edit: but due to my lack of experience with nukes i must ask; what do nukes do to forests, jungles, mountains, deserts, and hills (if I missed something just tell me)

ChaotikVisions · June 18, 2002, 13:06

Nukes will take everything down 1 level. Grasslands to plains, plains to desert, desert nothing though. As for what it does to forests, it just destroys the forest, the tile of plains or grasslands underneath is unnefected. Once had an idea that if you knew where and when you were gonna be nuked, building forests all around could help lessen the effects.

alva · June 25, 2002, 01:54

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Originally posted by ChaotikVisions
Nukes will take everything down 1 level. Grasslands to plains, plains to desert, desert nothing though. As for what it does to forests, it just destroys the forest, the tile of plains or grasslands underneath is unnefected. Once had an idea that if you knew where and when you were gonna be nuked, building forests all around could help lessen the effects.

So forest do have a usefull function afterall

i don't think i have ever used or saw one used in of my games!!

notyoueither · June 25, 2002, 02:00

This is too bizarre.

Christantine The Great · June 25, 2002, 02:31

It sounds like some sort of 1950s infomercial about the wonder and glory of nuclear power.

Hagbart · June 25, 2002, 03:31

Is it then possible to remove jungle with nukes, and leave the ground underneath unaffected?
It seems like a fast way to get rid of jungle, but I guess at the time nukes are available there wont be much jungle back needed to be cleared.

Harovan · June 25, 2002, 06:01

There's a "Nuke the river" strategy for score milkers. Makes high-food producing flood plains. Nothing for me, though.

Deathwalker · June 25, 2002, 06:45

THis would be a good idea for building cities in the jungle. Just nuke the desired location adnn then build your city

Panzer · June 25, 2002, 08:23

Hmmm, interesting use for nukes. No more smelly rainforests! Just drop an nuke and hey presto! Instead fertile glow-in-the-dark grasslands! Just think of the uses!

dunk · June 25, 2002, 10:04

The title of this thread made me laugh.

Mannamagnus · June 25, 2002, 10:24

It would be useful if nukes became available with mysticism. Otherwise it's just too late.

Zealot · June 25, 2002, 11:00

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Originally posted by Panzer
Hmmm, interesting use for nukes. No more smelly rainforests! Just drop an nuke and hey presto! Instead fertile glow-in-the-dark grasslands! Just think of the uses!

Firaxis will most certainly "fix" it somehow...

Christantine The Great · June 25, 2002, 15:23

Why's that? You still have to clean the pollution and if there was an enemy city there it would do the same thing.

Moonsinger · June 25, 2002, 17:00

What about the ice land, hill, and mountain? If you nuke them, what do they turn into?

WarpStorm · June 25, 2002, 17:36

Polluted tundra, polluted hills, and polluted mountains.

Moonsinger · June 26, 2002, 09:57

After you clean up pollution, what do you get? You mean we can't clean up a polluted hill?

WarpStorm · June 26, 2002, 12:51

Tundra, hills, and mountains. They don't change.

SomeOneElse · June 26, 2002, 15:32

this is too funny

Apolex · June 26, 2002, 17:11

Don't nukes do something to coastal squares? I seem to recall using one (back during v1.17) on an island city, and several coastal squares turned into water squares.

Does this still happen in v1.21? If so, that might open some more interesting Nuke-Terraforming possibilities, such as "Canal Building With Nukes" !

Thrawn05 · June 27, 2002, 13:06

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Cookie Monster · June 27, 2002, 13:57

Terraforming with nukes....................

Effective, most effective. Not as beastly as terraforming with planet busters ala SMAC/X but a viable strategy IMO. Too bad nukes aren't available early in the game. That's when one needs them the most to clear vast swathes of jungle.

Panag · June 27, 2002, 17:11

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Originally posted by Haupt. Dietrich
Terraforming with nukes....................

Effective, most effective. Not as beastly as terraforming with planet busters ala SMAC/X but a viable strategy IMO. Too bad nukes aren't available early in the game. That's when one needs them the most to clear vast swathes of jungle.

hi ,

, ...

, you can always start with some , ......

as for the terraforming , it leads however to "global warming" , ......

have a nice day

Space05us · June 27, 2002, 17:28

it only leads to global warming if you don't clean up the pollution.
I just rememberd "project chariot". one of the government agancies wanted to nuke a place up here in Alaska to build a harbor.

(during the 50's or 60's and no they didn't do it)

Panag · June 27, 2002, 19:27

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Originally posted by Space05us
it only leads to global warming if you don't clean up the pollution.
I just rememberd "project chariot". one of the government agancies wanted to nuke a place up here in Alaska to build a harbor.

(during the 50's or 60's and no they didn't do it)

hi ,

, even with the pollution clean up , global warming can start sometimes , .....

have a nice day

Thrawn05 · June 27, 2002, 19:50

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Originally posted by panag

hi ,

, even with the pollution clean up , global warming can start sometimes , .....

have a nice day

I'd call it Nuclear Winter...

Apolex · October 7, 2002, 16:45

I think panag is right, the global warming effects seem to occur after nukes even if you clean up the pollution. I think a nuke causes an irreversible global warming effect by itself without regard to the associated polution.

-Apolex

Ethelred · October 7, 2002, 17:47

For improving production in grasslands:

MINE THEM.

Nuclear blasts to kill flys. Silly. Ticks off the AI civs as well. I don't think we have to worry about Firaxis thinking of this as an exploit. Its more like hiring the Three Stooges to impove your city or Chico Marx to invest your funds.

Apolex · October 7, 2002, 21:52

Yeah but it was fun.

That's the point of the game, you see. Fun.

Tattila the Hun · October 30, 2002, 12:14

Does the AI mind if I blast nukes on my own territory?