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View Poll Results: Which wing is more selfish?
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June 19, 2002, 11:16
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Selfish Left-wingers
They want to steal your money in order to pay for their next fancy idea, like paying teenagers to have children or allowing illegal migrants to break into our country; but if a right-winger states that he should be allowed to keep the fruits of his labour, that is greedy? 
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June 19, 2002, 11:19
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Yes.
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June 19, 2002, 11:23
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Expecting others to support you when you could work is selfish.
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June 19, 2002, 11:26
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Re: Selfish Left-wingers
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Originally posted by Boddington's
They want to steal your money in order to pay for their next fancy idea, like paying teenagers to have children or allowing illegal migrants to break into our country; but if a right-winger states that he should be allowed to keep the fruits of his labour, that is greedy?
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ROLL UP, ROLL UP AND SEE THE WORLD FAMOUS DAILY MAIL MAN! Press his forehead for an instant rant straight out of the Daily Mail editorial database!
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June 19, 2002, 11:26
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Exactly.
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June 19, 2002, 11:27
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Re: Re: Selfish Left-wingers
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Originally posted by MikeH
ROLL UP, ROLL UP AND SEE THE WORLD FAMOUS DAILY MAIL MAN! Press his forehead for an instant rant straight out of the Daily Mail editorial database!
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I read The Times.
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June 19, 2002, 11:27
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I didn't realise the Times had gone quite that far downhill. You should read the Mail though, you'd agree with all of it, and you get lots of Royal stories.
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June 19, 2002, 11:28
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I think one has to recognize, just as I have, that human beings are selfish by nature. Therefore, both the right and the left are selfish... just in different ways.
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June 19, 2002, 11:28
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Itching for an all-expense paid trip to Mingapulco, Spinky?
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June 19, 2002, 11:29
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I can get one whenever I want; Ming is like string around my little finger. 
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June 19, 2002, 11:29
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Left, undoubtedly.
Speaking as a former Idealistic Communist who is now far right.
The Right is Right.
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June 19, 2002, 11:30
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Originally posted by Sixchan
Left, undoubtedly.
Speaking as a former Idealistic Communist who is now far right.
The Right is Right.
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I'm not too keen on far-right, but centre right policies like getting rid of bogus "asylum" seekers from France are sensible, generous ones.
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June 19, 2002, 11:32
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Generous. Can you explain why they are generous? Who to? France? Here we have a lovely gift of some assylum seekers for you.
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June 19, 2002, 11:33
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I'm not racist or anything, but I generally lean on the Authoritarian Side of politics nowadays, most likely due to the High crime and all the drug-addicts in Glasgow.
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June 19, 2002, 11:41
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Yes, and there's nothing selfish about authoritarianism, noooooo...
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June 19, 2002, 11:43
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It is for the good of the nation. I had a little manifesto kicking about somewhere, but I can't be bothered finding it.
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June 19, 2002, 11:47
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That's what authoritarians always say.
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June 19, 2002, 11:51
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I laugh at the second part of your statement... but the first part... not a problem 
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June 19, 2002, 11:52
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Originally posted by Sixchan
It is for the good of the nation. I had a little manifesto kicking about somewhere, but I can't be bothered finding it.
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Mein Kampf ?
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June 19, 2002, 11:55
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No, I don't steal others work. But that would be a nice example... 
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June 19, 2002, 12:03
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What about the Chinese limiting families to one child "for the good of the country" hard to argue against that one.
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June 19, 2002, 12:14
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so, this thread wasn't about Ryan Giggs? A pity you can't count on him tomorrow :
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June 19, 2002, 12:18
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By literal dictionary definition, taking from someone in order to give to someone deserving isn't selfish. Keeping everything for oneself is.
Also, Bods, if you think we shouldn't help people even when they need it, I hope you're looking forward to a lovely dotage. Of course, giving you help just because you're old and infirm would be selfish, right?
Hope you have a nice life, Bods. Because you won't the way you're going.
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June 19, 2002, 12:44
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What? So those on the left are all claiming benefits from the state? Most left-wingers are pro-giving some of their earnings to help those unfortunate. How is that selfish?
And I think Boddingtons submits letters to this site seriously www.dailynail.co.uk
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June 19, 2002, 12:50
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Re: Re: Re: Selfish Left-wingers
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I read The Times.
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Who explains it to you?
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June 19, 2002, 13:01
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The right wingers always say that the poor need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, when they do not have any bootstraps to pull themselves up with.
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June 19, 2002, 13:08
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so, this thread wasn't about Ryan Giggs? A pity you can't count on him tomorrow :
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I would rather have Damien Duff. Or even Craig Bellamy.
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June 19, 2002, 13:11
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Help people who are willing to help themselves I say...
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June 19, 2002, 13:57
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Also, Bods, if you think we shouldn't help people even when they need it, I hope you're looking forward to a lovely dotage. Of course, giving you help just because you're old and infirm would be selfish, right?
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Wrong. See, the left always twists the principles that the right expounds (though often doesn't understand itself). Help, charity, giving is incredibly important. We can't (or shouldn't) expect everyone to just struggle on themselves in despiration thinking that natural selection is at work. It is a terrible outlook for humanity.
It is essential for people to help out their brother when he is in a tough situation.
Now, these are principles that the right, the left and libertarians all support. How the left differs is that the left feels people aren't giving enough, or to the right people, or in the right ways, so it feels the need to FORCE people to 'give' how the left tells them.
No matter how much someone needs assistance, his fellow man should not be FORCED to help. By all means he should be encouraged, but FORCE is evil and should not be allowed.
This is the difference. So to answer the poll's question, both are wings on a corrupt and dying plane. Both are selfish, both are wrong.
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June 19, 2002, 14:00
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Help people who are willing to help themselves I say...
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And you make this definition how...?
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