Do You Play Civ III ?

SlowwHand · June 24, 2002, 10:11

Right, this is MP II forum.
Exactly where this thread needs to be, because I'm asking MP II people.

So do you? If you do, what do you think ?

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 10:16

i played it, beat it, haven't played it since they released some newer patches for it...didn't really care for it....back to civ2 MP now..and have been this way for a few months

rah · June 24, 2002, 10:22

Not since the original flurry. Got boring quick. Needs MP.

RAH

DaveV · June 24, 2002, 10:23

So far, I like 3 better than 2. It removes a lot of the things I disliked in 2 (e.g., diplos, caravans, city bribing, city triangulation, clicking in the black). What I've heard so far about MP sounds promising.

Ming · June 24, 2002, 10:26

No... not in a while.

But then again, I don't really play Civ II SP either.

We will see if Civ III MP is more fun.

SlowwHand · June 24, 2002, 10:33

I think III has the potential to be excellent as MP, especially if you leave all options open; as in Cultural victory etc.

June 24, 2002, 13:59

i played for about a month or so when it came out.. now i just use it for a coaster.. in short it sucks

CapTVK · June 24, 2002, 14:24

I'm still waiting for it to come out as a budget title...just to complete my collection.

In the meantime I'm playing Civ2 scenarios and playtesting Freeciv

drake · June 24, 2002, 15:06

Nope.........still too expensive. I'll wait a few years and then perhaps I'll consider it. Firaxis ain't getting my money so easily.

markusf · June 24, 2002, 15:31

MP is going to suck.. No only is the game horribly slow but its going to suffer from the same problem that affects most of these TBS games. The movement of superstacks. Band together 30 horses and move them on the same squares and your invincible.

rah · June 24, 2002, 16:01

You can do that now in MP, (using preworked settlers building fortresses along a river or road network) and while it is tough to stop, it's not invincible. Attack that mountain city defended by vet fortified pikemen, watch your horsemen dissappear. Granted in civIII, it's much more effective. (especially since you can't build on mountains.)

But I see your point.

RAH

markusf · June 24, 2002, 16:08

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Originally posted by rah
You can do that now in MP, (using preworked settlers building fortresses along a river or road network) and while it is tough to stop, it's not invincible. Attack that mountain city defended by vet fortified pikemen, watch your horsemen dissappear. Granted in civIII, it's much more effective. (especially since you can't build on mountains.)

But I see your point.

RAH

I saw the AI move a stack of 50 units... but now you can do it right from the get go.. The attacker has a huge advantage.. Then again only in civ3 and in civ 1 can you lose battleships and tanks to warrors

rah · June 24, 2002, 16:53

The joys of simplified combat.

Especially in Deity when the AI starts with a stack of warriors on turn 1.

Dank · June 24, 2002, 17:29

I haven't even tried it....I'll wait also untill it's cheaper.....

Brian Bergs · June 24, 2002, 17:51

No, I've played several times and have developed an intense dislike for it. It is boring. I hate not having diplos. It has some good elements but for the most part, it stinks.

Civ 2 forever.

SlowwHand · June 24, 2002, 18:16

I automate the cities with Governors, and automate the workers.
If you have people playing the game, it will be different than what you see in SP.

atawa · June 24, 2002, 19:09

I played it about 3 times......hopefully it will become better with MP.

Deity Dude · June 24, 2002, 19:12

No

Flatlander Fox · June 24, 2002, 19:21

Played it a few times, and was too disgruntled to continue after losing Calvary to Hoplites in clear terrain, or Tanks to Musketeers.

And the Tank vs. Spearman myth/reality is a little too much for me to handle.

I'll try it in MP, but I think it will take too damn long. Imagine trying to work out a deal with someone in Simul. play! ARG!

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 19:57

did you ever play civ1..the classic battleship loses to phalnx

Alexander's Horse · June 24, 2002, 20:35

I played like 2 and a half games and decided it was crap and put it away.

ColdWizard · June 24, 2002, 20:47

i last played in early december and have no intention of playing it again, not even MP

Tuberski · June 24, 2002, 21:24

I actually liked Civ 3 over Civ2. Mostly because Civ3 at least tries to be different from Civ2.

Civ 2 is just an updated Civ, IMHO.

However, I don't play Civ3 anymore, whereas, I will still play Civ2 on rare occasions.

War4ever · June 24, 2002, 23:05

that may be true....but civ2 update is far better than civ3 at this point....

civ3 failed in the same ways that the CTP series failed....gameplay completely changed and the new ideas while kewl, were not implemented in a way which was suitable for fun gameplay.....

markusf · June 24, 2002, 23:08

Quote:

Originally posted by War4ever
that may be true....but civ2 update is far better than civ3 at this point....

civ3 failed in the same ways that the CTP series failed....gameplay completely changed and the new ideas while kewl, were not implemented in a way which was suitable for fun gameplay.....

I got pissed off when my panzers where dieing on archers, and i'd move in 11 units in a city and poof next turn the city belonged to the other guy.

warcraft 3 rocks though... I have been playing that every now and then.

Tuberski · June 24, 2002, 23:13

Quote:

Originally posted by War4ever
that may be true....but civ2 update is far better than civ3 at this point....

True, but how long did it take Civ2 to reach that point?

If Civ3 still isn't as good as Civ2 when all is said and done, I'll agree with you.

But, there are still things being done to 3, so I'll take a "wait and see" approach.

Edit:

bravelaker2001 · June 25, 2002, 01:03

Well i tried to get into civ 3 but playing the ai is just plain boring no matter how improved they claim the ai are

Ming · June 25, 2002, 01:47

From what is being discussed about Civ III MP... it might have potential. Victory conditions like capture the flag and many different game options may give us the game we are looking for. But until we play it, I won't hold my breath.

Keep on Civin'... Civ II MP I mean

C-F-G · June 25, 2002, 04:37

i once played it, but the only good thing was the graphic

Hydey · June 25, 2002, 04:41

It just didn't have the one more turn feel.