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Old June 26, 2002, 18:18   #61
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What are you talking about?

And what about the Vs?
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check your mail , ....

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Old June 26, 2002, 18:21   #62
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hi ,

the navy was still out , ...
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Old June 26, 2002, 18:42   #63
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A new group of IAF pilots finished the training course today.
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, where is the pic of the woman , ....

at least you could have put her up , .....

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Old June 26, 2002, 19:31   #64
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could you actaully publish what the V means?

a nazi site claimed it was supposed to mean "victory" and is actaully a mind controlling thing related to the Magen david.

I'd hate to think it was true.
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More pictures of the new IAF pilots. Including the IAF second female pilot who lives in settlement of [censored].
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Picture time.

This photo was found in the home of a wanted Palestinian terrorist, in Hebron if i'm not mistaken.
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This thread reminded me of this.
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Old June 27, 2002, 13:34   #68
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Poor chariot.
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The bent gun looks painful. Don't forget to notice the cables keeping it from falling over.
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Old June 27, 2002, 20:17   #72
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I doubt the leclerc out does the Abrams. Leclerc doesnt use depleted uranium shells. You'de be lucky if the leclerc 120mm could take out the frontal armor of an abrams at stand-off range. Not a problem with the abrams which can take out most tanks at standoff range (2-3 miles)

Of course I could be talking out of my ass. I have never seen a leclerc, but I have seen the abrams in action and they are amazing
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The Abrams has never lost in a tank to tank battle, until they do, they will be the best. Has the Leclerc ever been in a tank to tank battle?
 
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I agree.
The Abrams has never lost in a tank to tank battle, until they do, they will be the best. Has the Leclerc ever been in a tank to tank battle?
Against what tanks the Abrams was fighting?
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Against what tanks the Abrams was fighting?
Soviet T-72 and T-80s in the Gulf War. The T-80 and M-1 were both new tanks then.
 
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IIRC, Iraq never had T-80s.

EDIT: T-80s not M-80s. what was I thinking.
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No offense or anything Eli, but that tank doesn´t look the great... you want a good tank check out the Ariete C1 Italy manufactures... instead of getting parts from Germany you should get them from Italy.
Oh stop it giani. Everyone knows the Ram isn't up to par with the other main MBTs.
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"T-80s "

No T-80's. Although the Iraqi's employed M-84 Yugoslav built T-72's. Kind of like a T-72 on steroids.
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"Why would Italy need tanks anyway?"

Why does Fiji need an airforce? Who would want to conquer fiji?
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No T-80's. Although the Iraqi's employed M-84 Yugoslav built T-72's. Kind of like a T-72 on steroids.
Well the Marines who fought the Republican Guard said they had a shoot out with T-80 at the Kuwaitie Air Field.
 
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well i dont think a lone t-80 would count. Say if 100 of them ran into 'red force' on its way to kuwait city from the east then yes. But one lone T-80 I dont think is much to consider.

It might be true. But then i remember the rumours of the Iraqi's burying an atomic bomb in the western desert so as to invite a flanking manuever.
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I agree.
The Abrams has never lost in a tank to tank battle, until they do, they will be the best. Has the Leclerc ever been in a tank to tank battle?
Well unless there have been more tank competitions, the german and russian tanks are still rated the best in the world.
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I agree.
The Abrams has never lost in a tank to tank battle, until they do, they will be the best. Has the Leclerc ever been in a tank to tank battle?
hi ,

yes , on small scale , and FIBUA .

and it survived , not a single one was lost .

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well i dont think a lone t-80 would count. Say if 100 of them ran into 'red force' on its way to kuwait city from the east then yes. But one lone T-80 I dont think is much to consider.

It might be true. But then i remember the rumours of the Iraqi's burying an atomic bomb in the western desert so as to invite a flanking manuever.
There was more than one. I hear the numbers back in 91 but don't remember them now.
 
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Well unless there have been more tank competitions, the german and russian tanks are still rated the best in the world.
How can they be rated the best when (Russian) they lost each and every tank battle to the M1. To my knowledge the German tank has yet to do battle with another tank.
 
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yes , on small scale , and FIBUA .

and it survived , not a single one was lost .

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Explain FIBUA and what type of tank did they fight?
 
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How can they be rated the best when (Russian) they lost each and every tank battle to the M1. To my knowledge the German tank has yet to do battle with another tank.
Thats a great accomplishment, a M1 beat some WW2 tanks with half the range.

Tank competitions are held to determine the worlds best tanks, so that countries with billions to spend in defence can determine what tanks they want to buy.
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so is turkey buying merkava or not?

there were negotiations they would buy croatian (ex-yu) tanks... I bet they would cost half price of the merkavas. I dont know what kind of devilish deal israelis proposed to them

but I dont follow tanks closely so I dont know.
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so is turkey buying merkava or not?

there were negotiations they would buy croatian (ex-yu) tanks... I bet they would cost half price of the merkavas. I dont know what kind of devilish deal israelis proposed to them

but I dont follow tanks closely so I dont know.
hi ,

as for now just upgrades on some m60 , ....

no need to go "devilish" , we beet the price by far with most nations , .......

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