June 28, 2002, 18:33
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Settler
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scoring
I know this has been covered before, but could someone explain the basics of civ 3 scoring and it's importance/unimportance in the game?
Thank ya!
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June 28, 2002, 21:42
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Let's see... AFAIK, it works like this. You get points from happy citizens (2 points each), content/specialist citizens (1 point each), and squares of territory (1 point per square). You also get point from victory and future tech, but I'm not sure how they work.
Anyway, once you score for a particular turn is added up, it is multiplied by the difficulty level, where Chieftan = 1 and Deity = 6. The score shown on the Historgraph screen is your average for the game so far - this is why it is possible for a Civ you have destroyed to have a higher score than one that is still alive.
Can anyone tell me if I've gone wrong anywhere?
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June 28, 2002, 22:57
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Prince
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General you are bang on. By the way, there is little relavence to the game. Wanting a big score encourages you to expand like crazy, with warlike intentions. It is an unbalanced scoring system.
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June 29, 2002, 05:57
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Princess
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It gets important if you want to win the game by score (which is when you retire). For all other victory conditions, it's irrelevant, afaik.
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June 29, 2002, 13:11
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It is important if you want to remember your game when you visit the Hall of Fame.
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June 29, 2002, 14:14
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King
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Victory points are calculated by taking 2050 - the year you finish. It is multiplied by difficulty level as well. How you win is irrelevant in terms of scoring.
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June 29, 2002, 18:43
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Settler
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no it's not, if you achieve an early victory, you get bonus points. How else could i have a victory in BC on a tiny map and have gotten a score of 9000 some??
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June 29, 2002, 18:56
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Prince
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Originally posted by JoeDaddy715
no it's not, if you achieve an early victory, you get bonus points. How else could i have a victory in BC on a tiny map and have gotten a score of 9000 some??
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I'm guessing it was neither a spaceship nor cultural victory.
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June 30, 2002, 09:31
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King
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Originally posted by JoeDaddy715
no it's not, if you achieve an early victory, you get bonus points. How else could i have a victory in BC on a tiny map and have gotten a score of 9000 some??
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I may be mistaken, but it appears that this was a response to my post, and if so, I don't understand what you mean.
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June 30, 2002, 13:03
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Originally posted by punkbass2000
I may be mistaken, but it appears that this was a response to my post, and if so, I don't understand what you mean.
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I believe JoeDaddy meant that from the scoring point of view it was not irrelevant how and when you win. If you achieve none of the "special" victory conditions (space race, domination, culture, diplo...) before 2050, then your total score is equal to what you have in 2050. However, should you win earlier, you get an extra bonus - I do not know how that works exactly, but I have just won a very weird game being elected the UN Secretary General in 1901. My score in 1900 was 599 points, while the final score a turn later, recorded in the Hall of Fame, was 1044...
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June 30, 2002, 18:57
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How you wind IS relevant in that some methods add victory points to your total (e.g., space race adds 200 points).
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July 1, 2002, 16:39
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King
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You guys missed the point of what I said. HOW you win is not relevant, WHEN you win is relevant. True, some wins can occur earlier than others, but there is nothing inherent scoring-wise about the win type itself. The formula does not change as a result of the win type.
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July 1, 2002, 16:53
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Emperor
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Originally posted by punkbass2000
You guys missed the point of what I said. HOW you win is not relevant, WHEN you win is relevant. True, some wins can occur earlier than others, but there is nothing inherent scoring-wise about the win type itself. The formula does not change as a result of the win type.
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Oh, that dash was in fact a minus sign! Sorry for misunderstanding you (just like everybody else, I guess  ).
What punkbass wanted to say was that the early victory adds this many points to your score:
(2050 minus the year you win) * difficulty
Great info, punkbass! Where did you find it?
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July 2, 2002, 19:07
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Prince
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Is the formula hardcoded or can you modify it?
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