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Originally posted by Cloud9
Somehow I get the feeling that these websites you are visiting are all lies, as it is human nature to do so. You should quote a reliable source.
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Ah yes. It's the everyone-else-is-insane-and-against-me argument. The sources are more reliable than yours, as they cite reknowned geologists. Every claim as to that site being the Ark has been debunked on a scientific basis. There is nothing supporting the claim except the shape of the rocks. Rocks, mind you. Not wood. Rocks. Did he make the Ark out of rocks? 
How about finding a non-religious, scientific analysis of the site and the evidence? Wait, I linked to that already. And I even threw in ones of Christian geoligists who debunk it. No one thinks this is real except Wyatt's partners in lies and the readers of the Weekly World News.
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If you can't keep an open mind on this, then there is no point in me continuing this discussion with you. I will put you on my Ignore List, and continue it without you. 
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I have a feeling you will end up putting everyone who dares argue with you on your Ignore list because you can't handle it. That's called a "cop out." You're going to find yourself very lonely if that is your tactic. You'll also find that burying your head in the sand isn't a particularly good way to face things.
Your mind is the one obviously not open, as with the plethora of evidence that Wyatt was propogating a lie, deliberate or not, you still keep trying to say there is something here, when there isn't.
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July 1, 2002, 23:07
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So, be it then. . .
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 1, 2002, 23:09
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Originally posted by Ramo
Look Cloud, the burden of proof is on you.
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As far I'm concerned, this investigation is not over.
<--- Ignore!
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 1, 2002, 23:12
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Isn't the next Indiana Jones movie about Noah's ark?
They're gonna call it "Raiders of the Lost Ark" just to f*ck with us.
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July 1, 2002, 23:12
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I'm crushed.
Of course, I can just have others do what I was doing with Asher...feeding my responses through via having someone else quote them.
Any takers to quote this post? 
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July 1, 2002, 23:13
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See what I mean about him ignorning anyone who disagrees with him? Just like an ostrich...
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July 1, 2002, 23:14
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Post all you want here people, but I swear with my hand on the Bible, your words are not heard. 
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 1, 2002, 23:17
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Such willful pride of ignorance...wonder what Jesus would think about that?
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July 1, 2002, 23:53
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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Cloud9, this is a hoax. It's been proven it's a hoax. The guy behind it admitted it was a hoax. Why would you embarrass yourself further by continuing to believe it?
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This reminds me of the whole crop circle hoax. Even after those two guys responsible for the circles came out and admitted they did it, even after they demonstrated how it could be done at night by two people with just ropes and planks, there are still those who believe that crop circles are made by aliens.
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July 1, 2002, 23:54
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Post all you want here people, but I swear with my hand on the Bible, your words are not heard.
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That's fine, it just reflects bad on you.
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July 2, 2002, 00:03
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I know its Noah's Ark because when you stand real close to it you can hear the ocean
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July 2, 2002, 00:08
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It doesn't matter how much research you do if you have it in your mind that only one result is correct. This is meant for all parties.
Of course, this is an especially dangerous statement to Cloud 9, whom has a belief structure based on this policy of only believeing there can be one answer.
Third of all, the main problem I have with those sites discrediting Ron Wyatt is that they tend not to cite their sources. It's not my initiative to believe that they're lying, but reasonable doubt can still exist as long as the claims aren't being appropriately cited.
When a harsh standard is applied to proving that the Arc is real I haven't seen proof on this high a level either.
I believe Boris said it himself, and idiot with an internet connection can say whatever he wants.
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July 2, 2002, 00:32
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Sorry Cloud, but it's a hoax. 
That said, it is still very possible that Noah's Ark may still exist somewhere.
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July 2, 2002, 00:49
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Of course, this is an especially dangerous statement to Cloud 9, whom has a belief structure based on this policy of only believeing there can be one answer.
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How can you say that? I changed my mind about things many times in this thread. Just look for yourself.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 2, 2002, 00:50
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Sorry Cloud, but it's a hoax.
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As I said before, there is more detective work to do.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 2, 2002, 01:03
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That's fine, it just reflects bad on you.
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Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.--Phillipians 4:19
That speaks for itself.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.--Phillipians 4:19
That speaks for itself.
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Yes it does but what the hell does it have to do with your credulism?
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Yes it does but what the hell does it have to do with your credulism?
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I should not associate in any way with these kind of people. Period.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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Do you know what credulism is?
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Do you know what credulism is?
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I don't see how this relates to credulism. I don't know where your coming from.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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July 2, 2002, 01:34
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Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is their shame. Their mind is on earthly things.--Phillipians 4:19
That speaks for itself.
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Thank you for proving my point. Or rather, proving the point your "opposition" on this thread.
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July 2, 2002, 01:37
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As I said before, there is more detective work to do.
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Even after the perpetrator came forward and admitted it is a hoax?
*insert incredulous smilie*
Do you, by chance, believe in the so called "bible code?"
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I don't see how this relates to credulism. I don't know where your coming from.
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No, you wouldn't
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Even after the perpetrator came forward and admitted it is a hoax?
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Their never was a hoax. Jammal just said that to throw everybody off.
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Do you, by chance, believe in the so called "bible code?"
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I've heard of that, but haven't really looked into it.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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I've heard of that, but haven't really looked into it.
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Guess that proves I'm not so credulistic after all, as Alexander's Horse thinks.
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<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
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Guess that proves I'm not so credulistic after all, as Alexander's Horse thinks.
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Not at all.
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I wonder if this would have come up if the Turks had actually won the World cup ...
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Their never was a hoax. Jammal just said that to throw everybody off.
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Does he just not have any comprehensive abilities?
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If Noah's ark is really true, and humanity is descended once again from 2 people, no wonder there are so many problems in the world. INBREEDING!!!
I'm sorry cloud9, you are wrong. People evolved, and there was no Noah's ark. The story in fact came from a Sumerian myth. You claim to be religious. Why don't you take some classes to learn about where your religion comes from. It would at least give you some credibility.
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The is the best religious thread in the history of Apolyton.
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