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View Poll Results: In some cases, I think it 's okay for me or other people to:
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Curse and swear
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Tell a lie to family and friends
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4.98% |
Call in sick eventhough I'm/they're not
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5.39% |
Drink alcohol
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Smoke tobacco
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Smoke marihuana
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Take drugs, i.e. speed, cocaine, heroin etc.
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3.05% |
Drive while under the influence of alcohol, marihuana or drugs
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10 |
0.80% |
Run a red light
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2.65% |
Watch/read pornography
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Have same sex relations
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Go through a divorce
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79 |
6.35% |
Cheat on my/their spouse or significant other
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19 |
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Borrow money, knowing I/they can't repay the lender on time§
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24 |
1.93% |
Cheat on my/their tax return
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23 |
1.85% |
Cheat on welfare/social benefits
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19 |
1.53% |
Steal items at the supermarket
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18 |
1.45% |
Have an abortion
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73 |
5.87% |
Have artificial fertilization performed
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78 |
6.27% |
Have an organ transplant performed
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87 |
6.99% |
Physically correct or punish my/their kids
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48 |
3.86% |
Not inform authorities of child abuse/neglect or spousal abuse
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19 |
1.53% |
Kill another person in self defense
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86 |
6.91% |
Kill another person, not in self defense
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July 10, 2002, 04:14
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Moral values of Apolyton
This week, a survey was published here in Denmark on contemporary values and moral standards. Surprisingly to some, it showed stong discrepancy between people from different parts of the country. Not just fluctuations, but real indications that people from e.g. Jutland found it far, far less acceptable for instance to tell a lie than did people from Copenhagen. Most interesting.
Anyway, it gave me the idea to survey how we here at Apolyton view some select actions and manners of conduct. No doubt there'll be differences as to people's background, location etc., but that's as may be. Can't work that into the poll.
For now, let's see how Apolyton as a whole looks on moral issues as picked by me, in my notorious omniscience. If you find you can't answer because you don't find yourself to be in the situation you're asked about, please imagine that you were and answer accordingly - or answer on the basis of what you think would be okay for other people in that situation.
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July 10, 2002, 04:21
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Deity
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Wow. All good.
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July 10, 2002, 04:41
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I wish you wouldn't post polls like this.
Reading all the things that I have done makes me a little or should that be
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July 10, 2002, 04:46
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A couple of those options are not so obvious.... but great poll anyway.
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July 10, 2002, 04:47
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All of them - except smoking tabacco - YUK.
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July 10, 2002, 04:54
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Deity
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'Drive while under the influence of alcohol, marihuana or drugs'
Gets the least so far...
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July 10, 2002, 04:55
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apolytoners have no morals, look at the crap banners they like
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July 10, 2002, 04:57
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King
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Hmmmm,
Well, I voted 'yes' for all the things that I have done and (supposedly) know better.
Other's I voted 'yes' because of extrenuating cirumstances that may warrant these mores (pronounced moh-rays) to be broken.
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July 10, 2002, 04:58
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the revenge of the kitten
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July 10, 2002, 05:00
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King
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"kill another person, not in self defence"; currently 7 'votes'? Hmmm, are soldiers killing 'not in self defence'? If so, count +1 vote for this category...
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July 10, 2002, 05:07
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WTF is immoral in having an organ transplant?
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July 10, 2002, 05:08
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Some people think it's unethical.
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July 10, 2002, 05:09
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messing with nature
(instead of just dieying)
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July 10, 2002, 05:09
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Including myself, I might add.
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July 10, 2002, 05:10
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winston, you think that transplants are unethical?!
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July 10, 2002, 05:12
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Yes.
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July 10, 2002, 05:13
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ok.
even when the organ comes from a person who is brain dead? (in the real meaning of the word - clinically dead)
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July 10, 2002, 05:15
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has just died in an accident I meant.
(hits his head - dead, organs useable)
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July 10, 2002, 05:16
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Absolutely.
For the record, I'm not condemning organ transplants - I simply hold the view that they're unethical to me.
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July 10, 2002, 05:21
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ok.
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July 10, 2002, 05:27
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Hmmm. Ok, what about an organ transplant from a pig?
(Which seem to be currently undergoing beta-testing)
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July 10, 2002, 05:34
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Too bad if you are Muslim then.
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July 10, 2002, 05:40
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muslims cant eat pis, it doesn say anything about living off a pig's liver or something?
BTW sorry if i seem to repeat myself, but i feel it like some sort of obligation to point out that
yes muslims theoretically arent supposed to drink alcohol or eat pig.
but most of them do
it's like saying all christians feast, dont lie and dont kill or something which is tada not true.
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July 10, 2002, 05:42
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at a party there was a muslim guy from maroco or algeria dont remember and he was the barman FFS!
by accident i caught him sippingon some beer and he winked at me and said "dont tell Allah, ok?"
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July 10, 2002, 05:45
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ravagon,
To me, it doesn't make any difference where the organ comes from. It's the concept in itself of inserting living organs to prolong my life that I find disturbing.
My stance on this issue is not a question of what is technically possible to do. Quite the contrary, it's a question of what I want to happen, regardless of the options available.
By the way, having made up one's mind in detail on the transplant issue - be it for or against and under what circumstances - makes it much easier for the next of kin as an added benefit.
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July 10, 2002, 05:46
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King
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Where is the produce porn option, eh?
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July 10, 2002, 05:57
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Silly danish people... why isn't marihuana with the other drugs?
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July 10, 2002, 06:04
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You might also ask, why do currently 14 people think it's okay to smoke marihuana, while only 13 think it's okay to smoke tobacco.
As an avid smoker of tobacco since my 13th year, I'm beginning to think I might actually be a social rebel.
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July 10, 2002, 06:26
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Because smoking tobacco brands you as an fool, while smoking mari makes the chicks think you're cool. Simple.
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"I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.
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July 10, 2002, 06:30
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moomin, you're a poet!
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