July 10, 2002, 06:06
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Prince
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How do most like to win by?
I like to win by the top way the last possible way as it has the most score!
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July 10, 2002, 10:10
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Chieftain
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You must mean Trancendence.
It depends for me on all the stats of the game and where I'm at stratigical a few years into the game. I find my self going with planetart governer most often. That could be contributed as I play most game with lal.... One thing I hardly everuse is corner global energy. I just never seem able to get enough energy credits. The one time I managed to do so I was playing at a lower level so the AI didnt retaliate.
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July 10, 2002, 13:20
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Deity
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Planetary governorship is the most frequent win-- I don't care much about score as getting a suprehigh score usaually involves delaying transcending while pumping up your population (sheer boredon)-- Usually once the game is a foregone conclusion ( I am more than 3 times bigger than all the AI combined) I see little point in playing things out and just trigger the election
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July 10, 2002, 14:04
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Prince
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Same here, though I usually play as Gaian and proceed to go about planting forest across the entire world just to make it look pretty.
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July 10, 2002, 15:37
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Prince
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DetroitDave, I think Fungus is better for Dee (and Fungboy) ideologically, and in the late game even the most profitable.
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July 10, 2002, 15:42
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Prince
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Yeah but it's such a pain in the ass to go back in the late game and switch everything back. Plus (and correct me if I'm wrong), I dont think fungus "spreads" like forest does. Plus green is my favorite color and I like the way I've transformed Planet into a forest paradise.
Dave
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July 10, 2002, 17:11
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Emperor
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usually if i can, i'll just beat everyone necessary into a submissive pact (usually the larger factions) just enough so i can get supreme leader. IIRC diplomatic is 1200 points -2 per turn elapsed, and conquest is 1000. lately though, i've hit sort of a slump . some games the AI is beating me sufficiently such that it's no fun (or rather i'm not beatin it enough such that it's fun), while others the AI really sucks and stays on a 2 base island with no terraforming (3 AIs did this in my last game). i usually just abandon these games.
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July 10, 2002, 17:30
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Prince
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DetroitDave, I can understand you. (Fungus doesn't spread, and therefore you have to plant fungus quickly over your forest ...) But I'm so convinced about the benefits of fungus that I even help other factions out by planting fungus. Preferably Miriam and even better Marr (who has no way to get a single FOP from fungus unless he gets Manifold Nexus or Cybernetic SE choice)
Fungal payloads are expensive but fun!
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July 10, 2002, 21:33
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Emperor
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Supreme Leader. You . . . Will . . . Kneel!!!
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July 11, 2002, 02:46
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King
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Hmmm, Conquest for me. Even though the points given aren't that much, just the fact that every other (surviving) faction must bend their knee to Chairman Yang gives me a sense of......pride.
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July 11, 2002, 11:09
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Emperor
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July 11, 2002, 11:22
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Chieftain
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Transendence or Conquest. I usually play Gaian and prefer a non fighting game, but when the opportunity presents itself for a good fight, I take the challange.
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July 12, 2002, 07:47
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King
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Supreme leader - usually with morgans and peaceful tactics.
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July 12, 2002, 13:31
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Prince
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July 12, 2002, 17:25
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Prince
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Supream leader, but latest was corner global market, I had only one city
But it was on a tiny map and talent level or something, it wasn't to hard...
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July 12, 2002, 18:36
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Emperor
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i usually aim for transcendance, but if i get bored with the current game, i go for a quick ending diplomatically or by conquest. diplomatic is such an unsatisfying victory though. i never really feel like i worked for it.
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July 12, 2002, 21:13
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Prince
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I rotate how I win. If I feel like I need to aquire victory by conquest then I'll do it. I also get bored but I don't end it with victory I end it by quiting and never comming back to the game. I also think that diplomatic victory is too easy and not worked for. I prefer Trancendence or Conquest. Conquest is much more of a challenge.
-J.B.-
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July 12, 2002, 23:46
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Prince
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Trancendance is it. I love the idea of being a deity
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July 13, 2002, 06:42
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Prince
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Trancendance is it. I love the idea of being a deity
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More posts, that is. And don't get caught spamming.
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July 13, 2002, 07:14
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Prince
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Conquest is the way for me.
Though if I'm getting too bored with a game, I'll try one of the diplomatic avenues for victory.
But if I'm not the Spartans or Hive, I'll try and head for Transcendence.
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July 13, 2002, 09:17
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King
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Tuomerehu, your avatar reminds me of 400 misspent Francs.
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I choose my avatars because of unique-user-imago, not from my fav. units;
so I dunno where this is even from. Homewer, I can make a rough guess:
CtP II?
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July 13, 2002, 14:11
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King
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Depends on my mood. If I feel murderous , it's conquest. Otherwise, I try for transcendence. Typically, in the late game, I have enough population and energy to do whatever I damn well please.
Sometimes, I might try for several modes of victory simultaneously (i.e. timing economic and transcendence victory so they happen on the same turn). Never tried for all four simultaneously, though (IMHO, conquest/econ/transcendence can be done, but I can't figure out how to fit diplo in there. Maybe the turn after?).
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July 13, 2002, 16:46
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Prince
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Originally posted by Adalbertus
More posts, that is. And don't get caught spamming.
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Sh!t, how'd you know??
No seriously, trancedence.
http://www.aleph.se/Trans/
The transhumanist philosophy.
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July 16, 2002, 17:36
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Prince
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Usually I try for transcendence, but if I get bored I will just go for diplomatic victory after getting all the secret projects I can for the score. The key for transendence is usually getting as many alien artifacts as possible to get all those expensive late techs.
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July 16, 2002, 18:34
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King
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I prefer to win by concession.
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July 16, 2002, 19:06
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Prince
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Originally posted by DilithiumDad
Usually I try for transcendence, but if I get bored I will just go for diplomatic victory after getting all the secret projects I can for the score. The key for transendence is usually getting as many alien artifacts as possible to get all those expensive late techs.
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And don't forget the universal translator!
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Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 17, 2002, 00:32
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Prince
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Get bigger and smarter than everyone else, then take over all their cities.
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July 17, 2002, 06:26
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King
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Transcendance definetely. When u become transcent, the planet gets your ideology, right ?
AND AINT THAT GREAT TO HAVE A WHOLE PLANET CALLING YOU COMRADE ???
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August 3, 2002, 22:08
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Settler
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Transcendance. Just because it gives the most points and I'm not too good at playing all the factions.
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August 3, 2002, 23:16
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Prince
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I try to win most often by Transcendence. If I get bored in the middle of the game, I will more often quit than vote myself in for Supreme Leader. But I agree that Supreme Leader is infinitely preferable to conquest, which I have only done twice -- it gives more points, and all you need is 2/3 the population (or 5/6 if Lal's the other 1/3).
Then again, conquest is available from the get-go, and for an ultra-quick win it's the only ballgame.
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