July 13, 2002, 23:28
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It is the end, and the moment was prepared for...
The final set of turns took me 1 and a half hours, a fraction of my first (and only other) set of turns. It ran from some rearrangements in 1820 to World Domination in 1826, effective as of 1828. The end, when it came, was a little quicker than I expected, thus I did not attempt to change to Democracy and maxing luxuries earlier (more population). However, with the saves I post in this thread, anyone looking on can download and (if your version of MGE works) see for yourselves what has been going on due to your own decisions. Perhaps you can do better with score, perhaps you'd like to continue and win in space, perhaps you'd like to just viciously sack Rusucurru over and over again. Whatever you want to do - you now have the results of all your decisions in front of you.
Congratulations are very certainly in order - we have taken a civilization from nothing to world domination before the 20th century, and with collective decisions. I have been privileged to be involved in this endeavour, and honoured to have been chosen as final Premier of Apolytonia - to lead us all to final victory.
Just a quick recap of our conquests:
1776 AD - Egypt and Rome conquered
1778 AD - America conquered
1810 AD - India conquered
1818 AD - Babylonia conquered
1826 AD - Carthage conquered
In 50 years we did this. The results certainly speak for themselves.
For perhaps the final time, signing off:
I salute you all
May the Great Banana bless us all!
Outgoing Premier of Apolytonia
MrWIA.
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July 13, 2002, 23:56
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Now to the good stuff
1820 AD
Some granary sales - we will soon be able to demand all the grain we could ever need from the vassalized Carthaginians
1822 AD
-Very little Carth activity - I think they have almost given up.
-The fortressed Cavalry E of Utica explores NW and finds one of the four unknown Carth cities - Caralis, pop=4
-A spy in the same fortress explores the other dark patch to the NE of the Carth continent and finds Leptis Parva - THE CAPITAL! - it has Walls.
-A spy is rushed in Carthage (76g) - those Walls will fall!
-Ironclad bombardment of Rusucurru and Cartenna (both emptied) as welll as a Catapult and Warrior on the island N of Tingis.
-An Ironclad discovers (and bombards) Selinus in the isthmus-like centre of the island N of Tingis - there is just Rusaddit to find now.
-Leptis Parva's walls are sabotaged and the spy escapes OK
-Sensing the end is approaching, I start changing cities to build Capitalization in order to have enough cash for both bribing and buying the last few WoWs (we have plenty of Freight that doesn't make it in time), and there is little use for other things in many cities
-The last Barb Cannon S of Dortmund is finally killed
1824 AD
-Civil Disorder in Bombay. OOPS! It is resolved via Elvis-a-like
-Several Cavalry are stationing themselves in a fortress NE of Utica untill all of them have enough moves to attack Leptis Parva at once.
-An Explorer sighted on the far W of that island the final city is expected on - exactly where shade predicted!
-Selinus is captured by a Cavalry arriving a=on a Transport (13g) A spy is disembarked, moves E, and discovers the final Carth city Rusaddit! The SMC was almost wrong in his predictions there. But, as ever, it didn't matter.
-The Transport moves to the main Carth island now and unloads the 3 Cavalry and 2 more spies for the final assault. They take Alalia (12g)
About here I realize with all those extra troops that Carth will be gone next turn - this I quickly rushbuild the rest of JS Bach's in Nalduria (50g - not quite enough Freight), and almost all of the UN in Paha Sapa (2328g) and Women's Suffrage in Rivertown(2320g). We still have more than 2000g.
1826 AD - VE (Victory on Earth) year
-The three WoWs are built (!)
-The Carth explorer moves into the wilderness of that Carth island, never to be seen again.... Rumours persist that they encountered a particularly nasty tribe of cannibals that ate them alive...And it is totally unfounded to suggest that the cannibals were paid by the Foreign Ministry
-Leptis Parva falls before the waves of Cavalry (32g) - Carthage's autocratic leaders are executed publically to much cheering. There is just cleanup now.
-Rocly finally escapes the fortress and takes Cartenna (33g)
-Rusaddit seceds for 118g (13g back)
-Gades revolts for 194g (19g back), and Caralis for 152g (13g back)
I stare at the one survivng bastion of the dinosaurs known as Carthage's government. The save game titled "finalmove1826.sav" is situated at this time. I then order the armies of Apolytonia on with a dismissive wave off my hand. As I turn my back on Carthage and towards the island upon which we started our journey, a great cheer erupts - we have finally done it. Rusucurru falls and we recover the final 8 gold in Carthage's coffers.
I end the turn, not bothering to do anything more than max the luxuries at 80%
The next turn a peasant revolt is reported near Boston. If anyone plays on they'll have nasty Barbs to contend with...
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July 13, 2002, 23:57
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Deity
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Our supreme power
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July 13, 2002, 23:58
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Deity
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Final score
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July 14, 2002, 00:00
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Maybe JA was always on the right track...
We ARE GREAT!!!!!!!!!
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July 14, 2002, 00:02
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Deity
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1st in everything?! Wow. How did we do that?
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July 14, 2002, 00:03
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Poor, poor Carthage...
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July 14, 2002, 00:06
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Carthage: the great Colonial Power.
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July 14, 2002, 00:08
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Deity
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And lastly, the saves:
this one is just before the last attack on Carthage's lasts city: Rusucurru
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July 14, 2002, 00:09
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The start of the last turn of moves/attacks;
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July 14, 2002, 00:12
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And finally, where I started this set of turns.
Well, that's it, if you want the orders I was given, shade's are exactly as they are in his thread about the end of Carthage, and if you want atawa's PM me.
If you want any more saves (I have a few going back as far as 1000AD, PM me and I will post them.
A bientot - until the next game.
Outgoing Premier of Apolytonia
MrWIA.
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July 14, 2002, 00:14
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Sorry! Forgot the last save.
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July 14, 2002, 00:35
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July 14, 2002, 00:52
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Well done everyone.
Now someone organise a new one
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July 14, 2002, 04:00
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this was just a warm up, now we're ready for the multi site challenge
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July 14, 2002, 09:14
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July 14, 2002, 09:43
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July 14, 2002, 13:06
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Quote:
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Originally posted by civman2000
WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! TIME TO CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *throws bananas up in the air*
See if you can catch them!!
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I got one!
but did you have to post the same pic half a dozen times? it took forever to load
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July 14, 2002, 14:27
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Well done and efficiently finished, Mr President MWIA. Though you did not get to enjoy a full term of leading our proud and glorious civ, you certainly led us to victory with authority and proper use of troops, gold, and spies!
Three cheers for MWIA. And three cheers to everyone who participated as Citizens or elected leaders at any point in this very fascinating game now concluded!
This was not the easiest way to play the game, but it was a very compelling and rewarding way to do so. Everyone who helped to make it work, whether they stood for office and won, or stood for office and lost, or stayed in the background posting comments, or voted in the polls had a part in this.
Clearly, Civ2 is the best computer game ever written, and equally clearly, the participants of this democracy game are among the best players of the game. I don't mean that individually (though that may also be true). I mean that in a teamwork and cooperative sense. Great individual players might not have done so well in a group situation. The obvious discussion-talents and willingness to go along with the majority voting of so many players was truly impressive (and a bit of a surprise to many).
So, congratualations to one and all!
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July 14, 2002, 15:36
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WOOHOO!!!
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July 14, 2002, 17:23
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Great job all, hope to enjoy another game!
Btw, when will the new game start?
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July 14, 2002, 21:24
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A fine outing, citizens!
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July 15, 2002, 03:54
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Prince
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ggod work!
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July 15, 2002, 04:32
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Good, Thank You all for joing the game which end so well when is the next game starting!
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July 15, 2002, 07:59
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Good job, as expected.
See all of you soon !
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July 15, 2002, 12:15
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GG
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July 16, 2002, 08:36
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Well once i was just bored and i took japan and I in 1934 I won the game by ruling the hole world and getting the spaceship
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July 17, 2002, 13:40
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When are the ellections for the next game?
We have lots of time till the next game so why wont we start early with the ellections.
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