The most annoying Civ poll. Which i forgot before. Yes go on, laugh.

joony · July 14, 2002, 12:07

Yadayada

Adagio · July 14, 2002, 12:57

England...Because they are in ALL games, no matter how few enemies I play against (I always set to random)...and they are ALWAYS living close to my civ

phunny_pharmer · July 14, 2002, 13:07

Germans- stop them early or else

BeBro · July 14, 2002, 13:17

France

Lucilla · July 14, 2002, 13:19

You forgot the banana option.

FrustratedPoet · July 14, 2002, 13:44

Greece.

If you start next to them it almost prohibits good early warfare. The Hoplites are scary.

Jawa Jocky · July 14, 2002, 14:08

The Hoplites make Greece a hard neighbor to pick on.

Iskandar Reza · July 14, 2002, 14:24

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Originally posted by ADG
England...Because they are in ALL games, no matter how few enemies I play against (I always set to random)...and they are ALWAYS living close to my civ

I notice that if you choose a European Civ, England will always appear. Likewise, choosing a Graeco-Roman Civ will always yield the opposite. They'll always put your nearest geographical neighbour (based on the real world) as your nearest geographical neighbour in the game.

ChaotikVisions · July 14, 2002, 14:27

France. Nothing is worse then ending up besides them. Oh, and if you turn off the "cuturally linked starting postions" you won't end up next to specific civs, just random ones. I always turn it off since i'm remaking history anyway, and ending up besides the same civs all the time would be boring. Btw, the box for it is on the civ select screen, along with the victory conditions.

Iskandar Reza · July 14, 2002, 14:30

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Originally posted by ChaotikVisions
France. Nothing is worse then ending up besides them. Oh, and if you turn off the "cuturally linked starting postions" you won't end up next to specific civs, just random ones. I always turn it off since i'm remaking history anyway, and ending up besides the same civs all the time would be boring. Btw, the box for it is on the civ select screen, along with the victory conditions.

Oh. So that's how you turn it off...

Inverse Icarus · July 14, 2002, 15:22

Where's the Vikings? Those damn Berzerkers are horiffic!

joony · July 14, 2002, 16:43

I voted for Rome. Could be because the Greeks are blatantly the best early on (which is as far as i get in my forrays into Monarch, and dare i say it Deity) so the Romans are always there as you said. I didn't know how to do that either by the way.

yellfromhell · July 14, 2002, 18:18

Germany:
I cant stand Von Bismarck`s ass-hole face.

Gangerolf · July 14, 2002, 20:31

In my last game Mao was a total *******.. the chinese riders can be really dangerous

Other annoying civs:
*Greece: ******** hopllites
*India: Gandhi is always so arrogant
*England: the queen looks like she's been dead a month
*Rome: always *******s

Adagio · July 15, 2002, 06:24

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Originally posted by Iskandar Reza
I notice that if you choose a European Civ, England will always appear. Likewise, choosing a Graeco-Roman Civ will always yield the opposite. They'll always put your nearest geographical neighbour (based on the real world) as your nearest geographical neighbour in the game.

I rarely play a European civ, so that it's not the problem...

Deathwalker · July 15, 2002, 08:34

France is the most annoying. They also dont have a real leader. Joan of Arc never lead France Napoleon would have better

Adagio · July 15, 2002, 10:02

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Originally posted by Deathwalker
France is the most annoying. They also dont have a real leader. Joan of Arc never lead France Napoleon would have better

France is the best civ to start nearby, Joan is cute

Q Classic · July 15, 2002, 13:13

same one as in civ2 and smac for me.

who ever is on MY continent.

frostycreep · July 16, 2002, 05:40

When i was first starting to play civ3, I was always declared war on by the zulu. I became so scared of them that i used to re start the game if i started next to them. Now im an experianced civ player(i can nearly complete emperor) I fear no one. I would ahppily go to war with any civ.

joony · July 16, 2002, 14:52

is there a way of making this poll a bit longer, as i've got it on 5 days, but its closer than i expected.

GhengisFarb™ · July 30, 2002, 13:47

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Originally posted by Deathwalker
France is the most annoying. They also dont have a real leader. Joan of Arc never lead France Napoleon would have better

Yeah, but Joan is a pushover. I't's so easy to keep her happy in the game. France is only annoying when you need to wipe their uselessness off the map.

Jethro83 · August 1, 2002, 20:13

My top three most annoying civs to start near are:

1. Greece. Hoplites shoot out any possibility of early war

2. Persia. Get them before they get iron!!!

3. Iroquois. Get them before they get horses!!!

After that would be:

4. Zululand. Masses of impis knocking on the gates of my border cities is surely a bit of a shock. More of a nuisance than a threat.

5. Aztecs. Can't stand those hordes of jags pumping into my territory kicking up my infrastructure.

6. Babylon. Very strong culture, solid early UU. Approach with caution.

Of course, in the middle ages, Japan and China freak me out if I'm next to them, and in the late industrial age, the Germans make for a very threatening nation to be neighbours with. And I won't want to cross America if they manage to get to the modern era (of course, if I had to, I'd just not use bombers against them).

Lord Merciless · August 1, 2002, 21:28

You cannot base annoyance of a civ totally on its UU. I don't know, but I always seem to get Germany as my starting neighbor, and they always are annoyed.

Jethro83 · August 2, 2002, 00:25

I know the mere annoyance can't be entirely based on the UU of that civ.

However, it crosses the border from pathetic nuisance to sheer annoyance and possibly threat when the UU of that civ wins a battle and fires up their golden age. One game I played, Babylon were my neighbours and one of their bowmen won a battle against me. The next 20 turns were nothing more than a defensive game, trying to take on wave after wave of bowmen. I'd hate to imagine the result of an enemy Aztec GA, and a Persian or Iroquois GA would be utterly devastating if you're at war with them.

I've found that a golden age can turn my lightning campaign in their lands into a long, gruelling defensive slugfest on the grounds that it starts their golden age if I lose to their UU. They are able to catch up militarily, even with their back against the wall.

That to me, is the height of annoyance in Civ III.

Of course, civs other than what I mentioned annoy the hell out of me as well (especially England and Egypt) for other reasons (such as always being there, and being arrogant as they are), but they don't annoy me as much as a civ who are armed to the teeth with UUs, primed up for a golden age the minute I (or they) begin an invasion.

Richelieu · August 2, 2002, 10:35

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Originally posted by LordAzreal
My top three most annoying civs to start near are:

1. Greece. Hoplites shoot out any possibility of early war

I've had some success by doing just that. Playing as the romans, i attack one of theoir hoplites as soon as possible. That way they use their Golden age in the early stage when they have only one or 2 cities to build their units. The key is to deny them from building too many cities and well defending yours.

Lord Merciless · August 2, 2002, 11:46

If UU is an indication of the annoyance of a civ, then Romans are the biggest pain in the butt during Ancient Age. If you see a horde of Legionary marching toward your cities, what units are going to use to fight against them?

Dimorier Maximus · August 2, 2002, 19:01

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Originally posted by Lord Merciless
If UU is an indication of the annoyance of a civ, then Romans are the biggest pain in the butt during Ancient Age. If you see a horde of Legionary marching toward your cities, what units are going to use to fight against them?

True.

Andemagne · August 3, 2002, 17:52

Rome.

Anodyne · August 3, 2002, 19:11

I don't like Americans. They capitalist pigs

Anodyne · August 3, 2002, 19:13

Oh, yearly stages!

Hmh... yes, Rome, I'd have to say. And any civs with strong defensive UUs. Conquering cities is a pain in the ass