July 15, 2002, 17:31
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Prince
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SLICs and Units
For all of you SLIC CTP gurus:
Is there a document that lists all of (most of) the variable and structure names in CTP2 for Slic editing? Don't need them yet, but I may in the future...
...which brings me to my next question, the 12 unit per city limit is interfering with moving my armies around, i.e. I have to walk around the cities. And worse, I need to build roads around the cities, so I don't loose movement points (my land is starting to look like Civ III land). Is there any way, to change the limit from 12?
The code must have an a 12 element array of structures for handling the units, does anyone know the variable name for this array?
Thanks!
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July 16, 2002, 23:31
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July 17, 2002, 09:22
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Prince
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Whoa! There's a lot you can do with .slc files. I don't know if it will let me raise the 12 unit limit for moving through cities, but man there's a lot you can do!
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July 17, 2002, 11:15
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The limit of 12 units on any tile, including cities is so hard-coded that it is impossible to change directly.
Making all units into transports would let you have up to 72 units in a tile I guess, but only 12 would attack or defend, and moving would be a pain.
There are only a few main concepts that are utterly impossible to change, and that is one
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July 17, 2002, 12:11
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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
The limit of 12 units on any tile, including cities is so hard-coded that it is impossible to change directly.
Making all units into transports would let you have up to 72 units in a tile I guess, but only 12 would attack or defend, and moving would be a pain.
There are only a few main concepts that are utterly impossible to change, and that is one
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I decided to play around this limitation. I have 3 defenders in each city, I keep the non-horse portion of my army to nine units, so they can move through the cities, and the horse portion (the remaining 3) move through the city before the rest of the army. Once they make to the battle field, I rejoin them.
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July 17, 2002, 14:21
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Originally posted by ahenobarb
I decided to play around this limitation. I have 3 defenders in each city, I keep the non-horse portion of my army to nine units, so they can move through the cities, and the horse portion (the remaining 3) move through the city before the rest of the army. Once they make to the battle field, I rejoin them.
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I think that's how we all do it. Either walk around the city (I usually design my road network to make this possible and not cost unnecessary movement points), or split the army in 2 or 3 pieces and walk them through part-by-part. One day I'll get around to automating the process through SLIC, one day... 5 years from now...
Last edited by Locutus; July 17, 2002 at 14:28.
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July 18, 2002, 09:16
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Originally posted by ahenobarb
...which brings me to my next question, the 12 unit per city limit is interfering with moving my armies around, i.e. I have to walk around the cities. And worse, I need to build roads around the cities, so I don't loose movement points (my land is starting to look like Civ III land). Is there any way, to change the limit from 12?
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Actal there are only four tiles around a city that needs roads of course only if the adjacent tiles have a road:
North
West City East
South
So to bypass the city just put on the South-Eastern tile for example a road if the Southern and the Eatsern tile have roads and you don't need to move through your city anymore, and enemies can't use these bypasses because of the ZOCs.
So you see Civ3 is far away.
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July 18, 2002, 13:26
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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Making all units into transports would let you have up to 72 units in a tile I guess,
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I'm not totally certain about this but I'm fairly sure that in CTP1 I was able to load transports into transports, so if CTP" works the same way and all units were transports you could store them ever deeper and there would be no (important) limit to the number of units in a square. It would get darned confusing though.
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July 18, 2002, 14:48
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Originally posted by J Bytheway
I'm not totally certain about this but I'm fairly sure that in CTP1 I was able to load transports into transports, so if CTP" works the same way and all units were transports you could store them ever deeper and there would be no (important) limit to the number of units in a square. It would get darned confusing though.
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 wow bet that could make MP very unerving!
'oh look here comes a transport........oh my god its got zillions of units pouring out of it!'. I don't know what programmers are paid for eh
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July 18, 2002, 15:47
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Originally posted by child of Thor
wow bet that could make MP very unerving!
'oh look here comes a transport........oh my god its got zillions of units pouring out of it!'. I don't know what programmers are paid for eh
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I would say:
Oh a transport here possible it has zillions of units on board let's sink it and zillions of problems are sunken, too.
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July 18, 2002, 16:21
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rofl.... to both the above posts. Just don't give a leviathan transport abilities, or it'll be unsinkable
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July 19, 2002, 17:23
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Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
rofl.... to both the above posts. Just don't give a leviathan transport abilities, or it'll be unsinkable
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I would hope that leviathans would be unfloatable, let alone unsinkable...
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