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View Poll Results: What is your favourite Social Enginnering ?
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Frontier State
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0.69% |
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Police State
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5.56% |
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Democratic State
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17.36% |
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Fundamentalist state
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1.39% |
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Simple Economy
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0.69% |
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Free Market Economy
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10.42% |
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Planned Economy
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6.25% |
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Green Economy
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8.33% |
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Value : Knowledge
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18.06% |
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Value : Power
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2.08% |
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Value : Wealth
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4.86% |
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Value : None
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0.69% |
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Future : Oecudemic
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9.72% |
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Future : Cybernetic
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11.11% |
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Future : Mind Control
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1.39% |
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Future : none
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July 16, 2002, 06:10
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King
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: of Xanadu, Scottish Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
Posts: 1,529
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What is your favourite social engineering ?
So... what is your favourite Social Engineering, not meaning the one you use the most, but the one that makes the game more pleasant to you... ?
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July 16, 2002, 06:25
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Next to your Mama
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Wealth. Read my sig. Need I say more?
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 06:27
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: We are all Asher now.
Posts: 1,437
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Democratic Freemarket Knowledge Cybernetic.
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July 16, 2002, 06:38
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Emperor
Local Time: 14:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: You can be me when I'm gone
Posts: 3,640
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Go Free Market! Go Free Market! Go Free Market!
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Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.
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July 16, 2002, 06:40
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: We are all Asher now.
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Originally posted by Mr. President
Go Free Market! Go Free Market! Go Free Market!
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Yeah....Although Gaia hates it when I do that, who cares about her?
Free market along with democracy gives me a ton of money, democracy-knowledge-cybernetic give me a ton of research, and i'm happy because i can research and execute a good war (later on, after i build that no-drone riots secret project).
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July 16, 2002, 06:48
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Next to your Mama
Posts: 616
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People of the world try to make ends meet
You travel by bus car train or feet
I said you gotta work hard to want to compete
It's like that, and that's the way it is.
Money is the key to end all your woes
Your ups and your downs, your highs and your lows
Won't you tell me last time that love bought you clothes?
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Bills fly higher, everyday
We receive, much lower pay
I'd rather stay young go out and play
It's like that, and that's the way it is.
Wars going on, across the sea
Street soldiers killing the elderly
Whatever happened to unity
It's like that, it's just the way it is
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Democratic Free Market Wealth Mind Control
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 06:50
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: We are all Asher now.
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Originally posted by Iskandar Reza
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Democratic Free Market Wealth Mind Control
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Looks like your going for wealth so...
Why MIND CONTROL?! 
In my experience, Fundamentalist, Police State, and Mind Control always lower income dramatically...
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July 16, 2002, 06:51
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Next to your Mama
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Because I'm a capitalistic fascist. 
Besides I always get that SP that eliminates the negs of Thought Control
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 06:52
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PolyCast Thread Necromancer
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Originally posted by Iskandar Reza
Because I'm a capitalistic fascist.
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Ah...Those two words are synonymous with each other.....
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July 16, 2002, 07:34
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King
Local Time: 07:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: the contradiction is filled with holes...
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I hate Free Market! I hate Free Market! For the awful ideology's sake I hate it. 
I like Police or Democracy & Planned or Green,
add to that Knowledge & Cybernetic.
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I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.
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July 16, 2002, 09:12
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Prince
Local Time: 06:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sweden
Posts: 653
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Democratic planned knowledge and finaly eudomania...
I am a sociallist
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What do I care about your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.
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July 16, 2002, 09:26
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Emperor
Local Time: 01:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
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i used to be afraid of free market. ooh too many drones! the money is just so much more than green or planned, that i just can't resist. you have to jack up the psych though..
Democracy, Free market, knowledge, cybernetic (if network backbone) i know you might say "who cares if you're already at -5 police anyway'', but with AV and brood pits, thats back up to -2, which doesn't cause drones for units out of territory. that means i don't have to switch to green or thought control for a war.
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July 16, 2002, 09:28
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Next to your Mama
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The secret to Free Market - Penal Colony
Build a base with punishment spheres. Home all military units (make sure they have clean reactors) there. Just keep it well guarded, 'cause if it falls, all hell breaks loose.
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 09:45
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Prince
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Detroit
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Democratic, Green, Knowledge. It's just too much a pain in the as$ to deal with FM eco-damage. And ideologically, I'm against punishment spheres, and usually raise a "natural' army of all mind worms while playing as my favorite Gaians.
Dave
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"Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.
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July 16, 2002, 11:52
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Next to your Mama
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Originally posted by DetroitDave
And ideologically, I'm against punishment spheres, and usually raise a "natural' army of all mind worms while playing as my favorite Gaians.
Dave
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You gotta try being a fascist sometimes. It makes you feel sooooooo gooooood, you dendrophile
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 12:18
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Chieftain
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Location: England
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Hey thanks Iskandar! I often wondered what the exact lyrics were!
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July 16, 2002, 12:19
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Prince
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Detroit
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Fascism.....pfft. Everyone just needs to kick back and smoke a spliff of some fine Gaian sinsemilla (grown naturally, of course)
Dave
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"Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.
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July 16, 2002, 12:24
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Originally posted by DetroitDave
Fascism.....pfft. Everyone just needs to kick back and smoke a spliff of some fine Gaian sinsemilla (grown naturally, of course)
Dave
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Hmmmm.... now I'm enticed....
Make love, not war
Don't drink and drive, Smoke and fly
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 13:23
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Prince
Local Time: 23:25
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Washington, DC, USA
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Democratic Green Knowledge Thought Control (after Vats).
Democratic Green Knowledge Cybernetic (after Netbone)
I like the extra energy of FM but like others I hate dealing with the ecodamage. Prefer Green for the free IoD's.
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July 16, 2002, 13:34
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King
Local Time: 23:25
Local Date: October 31, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Leamington, ON, Canada
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You forgot to include "none of the above"
I don't really have a favourite. My favourite is whatever is required at the time, to get the job done. In builder mode that may be dem/fm/know/cyber. But with certain circumstances or factions, other settings will prevail. I like to change my SE. Often.
bc
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July 16, 2002, 13:52
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Prince
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Detroit
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Actually, I change my mind. Ive been running Demo/planned more often than not lately. 40% growth rate rocks. And I dont even notice the hit on efficiency.
Dave
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"Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.
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July 16, 2002, 14:38
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Originally posted by DetroitDave
Actually, I change my mind. Ive been running Demo/planned more often than not lately. 40% growth rate rocks. And I dont even notice the hit on efficiency.
Dave
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If only you could whip those citizens like in Civ3. 
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 15:10
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Prince
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Detroit
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Now, now, Hitler. Dont get your panties in a bunch. You know damn well that progressivism and democracy is the true path to utopia 
Dave
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"Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.
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July 16, 2002, 15:15
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Originally posted by DetroitDave
Now, now, Hitler. Dont get your panties in a bunch. You know damn well that progressivism and democracy is the true path to utopia
Dave
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Utopia? Bah! Who cares about the people. It's all about ME!! As long as I'm happy and content, everything else is fine. The World Revolves Around ME.
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 16:20
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Emperor
Local Time: 01:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,783
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Originally posted by DetroitDave
Now, now, Hitler. Dont get your panties in a bunch. You know damn well that progressivism and democracy is the true path to utopia
Dave
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i was under the impression that utopia was eudaimonia (you-die-moe-nee-uh) or as waab put it eudomania (you-doh-main-ee-uh).  (sorry waab couldn't help it)
now Hit, erm Iskandar the only problem with the whip is that the people get mad and leave. but that's ok because only you matter
just for the sake of not being on topic and being caught spamming, if i need to enter a war, i'll usually switch to thought control if i have the tech and the vats so i wont get the pacifism drones, but if i don't have the tech i'll just switch to green, catch some worms, and whem i'm done the war, it's back to market again.
Democracy/planned is good off the start for the +4 growth and +1 industry, and pop boom with creches, but i'll usually switch to market around environmental economics to get the tech lead and all the energy 
Last edited by Method; July 17, 2002 at 12:10.
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July 16, 2002, 16:25
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Prince
Local Time: 12:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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Originally posted by TKG
now Hit, erm Iskandar the only problem with the whip is that the people get mad and leave. but that's ok because only you matter
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You know me so well 
Well, anyway. Freemarket. Yes. Build a Penal Colony. You need only one. Two if you're paranoid-schizo 
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Don't drink and drive, smoke and fly.
Anti-bush and anti-Bush.
"Who's your Daddy? You know who your Daddy is, huh?? It's me! Yeah.. I'm your Daddy! Uh-huh! How come I'm your Daddy! 'Coz I did this to your Mama? Yeah, your Mama! Yeah this your Mama! Your Mama! You suck man, but your Mama's sweet! You suck, but your Mama, ohhh... Uh-huh, your Mama! Far out man, you do suck, but not as good as your Mama! So what's it gonna be? Spit or swallow, sissy boy?" - Superfly, joecartoon
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July 16, 2002, 17:20
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Prince
Local Time: 06:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Sweden
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Originally posted by TKG
i was under the impression that utopia was eudaimonia (you-die-moe-nee-uh) or as wabb put it eudomania (you-doh-main-ee-uh). (sorry wabb couldn't help it)
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No problem  BUT wAAb not waBB...
How is it spelled really (eudomania)? My english is totlaly useless...
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What do I care about your suffering? Pain, even agony, is no more than information before the senses, data fed to the computer of the mind. The lesson is simple: you have received the information, now act on it. Take control of the input and you shall become master of the output.
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July 16, 2002, 17:29
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Prince
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Detroit
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Yeah, TKG, like I said. It's hard for me to get rid of that 40% growth rate, especially when my tree farms are up and running. I'll crawler out to fungus for some nutrients too, and just watch my cities grow, grow, grow.  It's so good being green 
Dave
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"Perhaps a new spirit is rising among us. If it is, let us trace its movements and pray that our own inner being may be sensitive to its guidance, for we are deeply in need of a new way beyond the darkness that seems so close around us." --MLK Jr.
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July 16, 2002, 17:36
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Beyond the Sword AI Programmer
Local Time: 17:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I am a Buddhist
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My vote went with Free Market, Wealth, Eudo. Ideologically Eudo is great. In terms of gameplay, money is good.
I dont have a prefered goverment as such, Democracy is obviously the best but I'll also swing to Police State and/or Fundie, and certaintely enjoy playing as much, or more, with those goverments.
In terms of an ultimate faction I would like to live in, Democracy, Green, Wealth, Eudo is probably the flavour of the week for me. If I used that setup in-game, in wartime I would swap Demo for Fundie for elites.
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July 17, 2002, 06:02
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King
Local Time: 04:25
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: of Xanadu, Scottish Section of the Apolyton Must Crush Capitalism Party
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Why do you all need to have a Free Market Economy when u can have a good democracy/planned economy / knowledge/and build tons of Supply Crawlers and raise more money ???
Uh, why ?
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"I shall return and I shall be billions"
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