A simple question - Page 4

Heresson · September 30, 2002, 10:06

Palaiologos; I can't send You anything right now, because I'm in Warsaw now.
Mamluks You can find in Civ2-creation/Scenario League forum. It's not finished. When it comes to corrected events, You'll have to wait for it. For now, replace events
("events" which You should rename to events 2) with events1 (which You should rename to events) and clear scn file with delevent.

Heresson · November 3, 2002, 15:05

I had some time now and played a couple more years (it's 1758 or so now)

Netherlands were completely annexed, British and Songhai Empire crushed. Next war should bring complete annexion of
England.

Heresson · December 12, 2002, 11:18

I returned to home for two days and I had a new session. I feel a need to boast. Though some my small trading points in India and America were destroyed, I conquest most of Arabia, Punt, India and Indochina,
breaking powerfull Indo-Omanian alliance. New one,
from Arabia to China was established, but when I attacked again, they chickened out and I'll have to wait with conquest of great China some more time.
Usually a war in east Asia takes me 3 years. 1 on preparing, one on war, and one on reestablishing 3-point stability.

Palaiologos · December 12, 2002, 18:13

I don't get it. Which Empire do you control? The Polish?

What is your difficulty setting and AI aggresivenes?

Me with settings on normal(Byzantium), i liberated Rome from the Catholic heathen along with Vienna and Isfahan at about 1550s and invaded the Aztec Empire at the 1760s. The hated Ottomans were by then a long, forgotten memory.

Heresson · December 13, 2002, 08:53

I play as Venice. I don't know what difficulty level is it.
I guess not very big. But who cares.

Dauphin · December 13, 2002, 11:59

Heresson, have you tried using the print screen function?

Carolus_Rex · December 14, 2002, 09:58

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Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Heresson, have you tried using the print screen function?

Ssssh, it's art!

Dauphin · December 14, 2002, 11:06

I s'pose they do resemble Jackson Pollock's.

Heresson · December 16, 2002, 10:02

Well, I couyld do that, but though I would be able to show my state and my vassals, I wouldn't be able to show the grounds once occupied.

Dauphin · December 16, 2002, 10:35

Try using outline maps.

Heresson · December 23, 2002, 14:09

Two things I don't understand;
1) I can't show what I wish to show on outline maps,
so how can I?
2)Why there is a border between Engand and Scotland, Engalnd and Wales (and between Serbia and Tchernogora)? If there is, shouldn't there be a similar ones in Russia?

i was having two campaigns in NA and two in the far East recently. Results soon shall be shown. I know You just can't wait...

Heresson · December 24, 2002, 18:58

Oh, the game was over, just when I was preparing to another war, which was supposed to be directed either against the puny British-Swedish alliance
(England has one heavily fortified European city and a lot of trading points. By taking the capital I probably can annex it all, as well as Sweden, which has its capital and two trading points), or against Persian-Uzbek-Indian one

You can see the final territorial result at the bottom.
My only ally is Poland which has a very strange tactic. It was my ally, when I declare war on sb it immediatelly betray me and next month propose a new alliance. I agree. Why not?
Soon I'll play a new game. Yet, this topic is finally over. I'm starting a new one over a bit other topic.

Heresson · January 4, 2003, 17:56

OK. Here is a map of amy new game.
I play France, I felt strong and started conquests immediatelly, going from war to war. At first these were small ones. Later, giant ones. And when I was fighting one block, of northern Germany and Poland and England or stuff, another attacked me, with Austria, Hungary, Venice, some other states. Later there was another war, again with England and Poland, but also with Scotland which proved to be a hard nut to knock. And when I finally beaten all I accidentally signed a peace treaty with all alliance instead of Czechia only. But oh well. I will have my revenge another time. I don't remember all the story exactly so that's it.

Dark red is my original France. Lighter red are my conquests,
orange - vassals, brownish - allies (Papal state), black - current enemies, yellow - currently occupied enemy state
blue - never occupied ground, light blue - once occupied one.
feel free to have the most absurd comments to it

Oerdin · January 5, 2003, 08:35

Heresson: What is the settings which you are using for your new game?

Heresson · January 7, 2003, 06:17

The settings? I think it was "normal".
I forgot to take the savegame, and now am playing Byzantium in Great Campaign, is "easy" or "normal" settings. It was horrible at the start. I was constantly falling in debts. I got some money by making Albania and Raguza my vassals (and anecting Bosnia). Albania was harder to beat than I thought, though. Then, profitting from Vlach and Moldavian attack on Turkey, I attacked it too, and soon Trebizond joined this action too. But Poland, Lithuania and Transsilvania attacked them and destroyed completely, and I had to fight alone. Eventually, though a big revolt started in Greece,
I managed to reduce Turkey to Macedonia only. But then I was attacked by
Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Austria, Venice, Modena, Toskania, Wirtembergia and Switzerland (who earlier anected my vassal Raguza). Venice caputred Bosnia, but lost Kreta, Ionian islands and Korfu. The fight is still on. I signed peace with everyone except for Austria and Venice.

Palaiologos · January 7, 2003, 13:00

Wrong strategy for Byzantium there Matias. Your first target should be the duchy of Hellas. Annex it within the first year. Then launch an attack on albania with a portion of your forces. Conquer them and ask for a peace treaty all their money-they somehow have more than 700 ducats. Simultaneously board some troops on your ships and annex Cyprus. You should have won both wars by 1422(Spend all your money on infantry, since both Cyprus and Albania are mountainous). After you get the albanian gold take on the Knights of Rhodes-repel any Papal reaction by stationing Cavalry armies in Hellas. Then take on Albania again even if you are engaged in a war with Venice or Genoa. Annex them and attack Ragusa and Bosnia. Afterwards it is Turkey's turn and Venice's. Always operate your fleet en masse so you will be able to destroy piecemeal the Venetian fleets. Invest only in land Technolgy.

Palaiologos · January 7, 2003, 13:02

Now that i think of it, is anybody on for a Multiplayer game of EUII?

I have never played one.

joncha · January 8, 2003, 03:38

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Originally posted by Palaiologos
Now that i think of it, is anybody on for a Multiplayer game of EUII?

I have never played one.

no thanks... but I would like to see more of Heresson's maps.

Heresson · January 10, 2003, 11:08

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Originally posted by Palaiologos
Wrong strategy for Byzantium there Matias. Your first target should be the duchy of Hellas. Annex it within the first year. Then launch an attack on albania with a portion of your forces. Conquer them and ask for a peace treaty all their money-they somehow have more than 700 ducats. Simultaneously board some troops on your ships and annex Cyprus. You should have won both wars by 1422(Spend all your money on infantry, since both Cyprus and Albania are mountainous). After you get the albanian gold take on the Knights of Rhodes-repel any Papal reaction by stationing Cavalry armies in Hellas. Then take on Albania again even if you are engaged in a war with Venice or Genoa. Annex them and attack Ragusa and Bosnia. Afterwards it is Turkey's turn and Venice's. Always operate your fleet en masse so you will be able to destroy piecemeal the Venetian fleets. Invest only in land Technolgy.

Interesting... But yes, indeed, my first step was anecting Athens. The rest... Well, I had almost no money for any research at first, all on money, because of debts and wars... Now it should be better. i didn't have any time to play EU or draw maps recently due to my exam, but I'll do it now

Unless I'll learn I failed...

Heresson · January 17, 2003, 08:19

I can't draw maps yet, as paintbrush somehow is not installed at my computer. But I was having nice conquests. I allied with Nubia; except for Cairo and Delta, which are of my allies', the rest of Egypt with entire Syria, Palestine, Tunisia, Cyrenaica was conquered by me. I also crushed Persia; Kurdistan,
Azerbaydzan, and all the coast up to Ormuz is mine,
as well as Bahrajn. Katar is posessity of my ally.
I took Armenia, Dagestan and Soczi from Georgia and vassalised them. Also, I reduced their vassal, Ukraine,
to one province, and conquered (with Poland) Lithuania
except for Ukraine, Wolyn, Lithuania and one more province which are Polish now. I conquered Kurlandia, Polock and Kurlandia also. However, my second attack
on Teutonic Knights, and one on Genua was not succesfull. I must have artillery. I have three market centres (Isfahan, Alexandria, Kurlandia), and one is of my vassal (Venice), so I should be able to reach it.
However, my game is kind of hard, as I have 90% inflation. I'm researching infrastructure and land technology only now.

Oh, and I have my French savegame after all.

Nikolai · January 17, 2003, 10:02

The strategy for Byzantium that has worked best for me, is to build up a huge cavalery only army, DoW OE, and let them spill their troops on me, before splitting up my army and siege all/most of OE's provinces.

PS! With such a long thread, I didn't want to read the whole thread, but I hope I didn't write the same as someone else.:P

Heresson · January 21, 2003, 11:17

My Byzantine Empire is ever growing. I reduced Poland to Masovia and Lithuania, Austria to Vienna,
and in two or three great wars with France took large parts of it plus Genua. I could vassalise it all, but decided otherwise. Also, I anected or vassalised large part of Germany, and took European provinces of Netherlands. I need to take their colonies to finish the war, though.

Heresson · January 23, 2003, 12:39

I vassalised Sweden by force and took three provinces from them. I reduced France to several hopeless shreds.
I humilitated Spain and took their Italian posessities from them (not to mention Roussilion and Barcelona).
I vassalised Netherlands by force and took a half of England.

Main_Brain · January 24, 2003, 14:09

What about Prussia??
And I can only repeat: Make Screenshots per Prnt and attach 'em :=)

Heresson · January 27, 2003, 06:07

I'll try.
What about Prussia?
When it comes to Klajpeda (Memel),
it is my province, and is converted to orthodox faith.
When it comes to Prussia itself;

Germany was in one time a field where several mights appeared. One was -- duchy of Klewe (sic!), which became pretty big in western Germany and netherlands,
but wars with France made it weak, and eventually it was attacked by me, reduced considerably and vassalised. The second one was Pomorze Zachodnie,
(Western) Pomerania, which stretched from Baltic to Czechy, with Sudety and £u¿yce in it, as well as part of Netherlands. Pomerania, however, was crippled by revolts, which made Brandenburgia and Netherlands and other states appear, and eventually it was vassalised and annexed by Sweden. £u¿yce and Sudety, under rebels' control, were Swedish province untill I took £u¿yce and vassalised Sudety with the rest of Sweden. Brandenburg in this time grew in power,
crippling Poland and taking its western part just in time when I attacked it. I conquered entire brandenburg and took much of them, but Brandenburg itself remained independant; meanwhile, western part of Western Pomerania got independant from Sweden and later it was annexed by Brandenburg; with Prussia, it formed Prussia, a very remarkable state, as somehow they made their provinces, as well as Denmark,very rich.
I look greedy on it, but yet i fight with others.
Anyway, Prussia twice attacked what remained of Poland (Masovia+Lithuania), and it seemed it will conquer it; but no. Poland took Prussia (province) instead. that's how the situation with Prussia looks like.

When it comes to the general game;

in a great was against France, Spain and several others mights, I took the most profitable provinces of Spain, including captured by them earlier Lisbon and Toledo.
France in Europe is limited to Paris, Palatinate (which was once annexed by me, set free as a vassal because it was calvinist, and then annexed by France despite me declaring war on them), and Languedoc.
Sieges of Wandea and of Kercz were very long.
I destroyed Navarre completely, holstein as well,
reduced Czechy to one vassal province (and it had posessities in northern Germany).
Also, i recuded and vassalised Wales and Puritans.
I started a great missionary action to get rid of all protestants, and then all muslims out of my state.
My German provinces and English ones are orthodox already.
Now, I started a war against England/Denmark/Teutonic Knights. teutonic Knights are already reduced and vassalised, England is entirely conquered (but their Dublin and their colonies aren't... My fleet is still very weak). Denmark is slowly being conquered.
My dear Sweden was so nice to declare war on it too,
but unfortunatelly it backed off later despite it could conquer it easily.
it's year 1756 I think.

Heresson · January 27, 2003, 06:11

I had a lot of problems at the start of year 1750. The game kept on trashing. I managed to get through that, though;
I loaded the game as another civ and got back to Byzantines when I passed the "crashing" day, january the second.

Main_Brain · January 27, 2003, 13:08

Well GC that is

Main_Brain · January 28, 2003, 09:50

Lithunis is researching TableDancers while chilling and generally minding its own Biz when suddenly attacked by the Evil Swedes!
They dont seem to own tables so Greed took obviously over.
Lit will teach those Pirates of the Bay a Lesson!
In other News: some crazy german seems to spread strange Ideas in Europe..
Pope will surely Tech him a Lesson! Stayed at Catholicism.

Heresson · January 31, 2003, 18:35

Nice. When it comes to me, I'll start making a map right away.

Palaiologos · January 31, 2003, 19:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Heresson
Nice. When it comes to me, I'll start making a map right away.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!