View Poll Results: Which of these games are among the best of the year..?
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos 13 19.12%
Grand Theft Auto III 12 17.65%
FIFA Soccer 2002 1 1.47%
Neverwinter Nights 9 13.24%
Return to Castle Wolfenstein 2 2.94%
NHL 2002 0 0%
Serious Sam: The Second Encounter 2 2.94%
Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast 4 5.88%
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault 3 4.41%
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix 1 1.47%
Sid Meier's SimGolf 5 7.35%
The Sims - Vacation 2 2.94%
Dungeon Siege 0 0%
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 1 1.47%
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 9 13.24%
Freedom Force 4 5.88%
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Old July 22, 2002, 12:19   #1
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Top games of the year
Just curious, which games would you say is the best games of the year? And this is only games that have been released, not "to-be-released" games...

You can vote as many as you wish, but post your top 3 here

PS. Sorry if I forgot some games, or if some of those games are not from this year...

Anyway, my top 3 is: (Not neccesarily in that order)

Warcraft III
Grand Theft Auto III
Soldier of Fortune II
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I only have SimGolf. I need to get Freedom force and Morrowind to better check out NetImmerse engine though.
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Morrowind and GTA III. The only other one I played up there was Return to Castle Wolfenstein, but it certainly doesn't deserve a vote--it was fun, but nothing special.
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Of those games listed the only one I have is Warcraft III, which I only got last week, so thats the only one I voted for
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Yeez. Only one I played on that list is War3. Okay, I played 2 minutes of GTA3, but that was the PS2 version and this is definitely a PC poll, and I wouldn't vote for it anyway (a massively overrated game, IMHO). And I haven't played enough of the full version of War3 to conclusively vote for that, either. The demo to Dungeon Siege was fun, but I'm waiting for the price to drop.

AOW2 looks like a keeper so far. HOMM4 may or may not be good, haven't played it yet, although the reviews seem to have been mixed.
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Of those games listed the only one I have is Warcraft III,
Are you playing online yet?
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Not yet. I want to finish the quests first, play a few rounds against the computer. Generally get a feel for the game.

Maybe in a fortnight or so. Put my toe in the water.

Unfortunately I'm studying for exams in August/September so I won't be able to play much. However, come September 12, and my last exam, I will have a whole fortnight off work to get some hardcore gaming practice in.
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d@amn! haven't played anyone of those games.
but I have seen Warcraft3 and it looked GREAT!

hey! where's Heroes4?
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Not yet. I want to finish the quests first, play a few rounds against the computer. Generally get a feel for the game.
I get completely trounced by the computer in every game I play...

I just can't click fast enough I think.

I expect if I ever played on bnet I would be slaughtered by people who have been playing Starcraft for the last 5 years.
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The title should read 'top games of the year but not counting the ones released in the last five months including the usually busy Christmas period'.

And FIFA 2002? Maybe if we're talking PC games, but it's nothing on ISS/PES.
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PES is the best. The new version looks like it will be even better, though. It's out in Japan (called Winning Eleven 6 IIRC) and pc.ign.com have done a preview of it ...

drool drool ...
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The title should read 'top games of the year but not counting the ones released in the last five months including the usually busy Christmas period'.
As far as I know, these games are about the only "could-become-a-top-game" released this year...if I missed some, it is because:

1. I've never ever heard of the game
2. It's a cheap-ass game, not worth mentioning...

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[...] including the usually busy Christmas period'.
What exactly do you mean by that? We haven't had Christmas this year yet!!! So no suprise I haven't included any Chrismas games...
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The title should read 'top games of the year but not counting the ones released in the last five months including the usually busy Christmas period'.
Games released just before Christmas are usually shadows of their full potential. Games released when they are complete are far more likely to be better, if not more popularly bought, games.
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Scumming this list (last year's PC Gamer UK top 100): http://www.pcgamer.co.uk/features/top100_feature.asp I find that the following games were released in the August-December period.

Deus Ex, Half-Life, Baldur's Gate II, Championship Manager (yearly) from the top 10. The release dates were unavailable for some games, but even so, the sheer quantity of releases in the second half of the year disproves your point.
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That doesn't disprove my point. Saying that better games come out in Jan-June does not proclude good games coming out in July-Dec

More games are released in the pre-Christmas period, thus making a hit more likely in the pre-Christmas period. My statement is saying that a higher proportion of pre-Christmas games are crap.

If you release ten games in each of the first nine months of a year and fifty in each of the last three months; and then each month produces the same number of hits, my point is proven.
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hey! where's Heroes4?
Yes, where is it?

Oh well, the only game that I played which appears in that list is Warcraft 3. It's not my favourite but it is very good and so I voted for it.

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More games are released in the pre-Christmas period, thus making a hit more likely in the pre-Christmas period. My statement is saying that a higher proportion of pre-Christmas games are crap.

If you release ten games in each of the first nine months of a year and fifty in each of the last three months; and then each month produces the same number of hits, my point is proven.
That could be true since every developing team tries to hit the Christmas market with their games. But mostly only developers that want to produce a quality product are willing to delay their game beyond Christmas if they are still buggy. (Of course some developers just lack the money to not rush their games)
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As far as I know, these games are about the only "could-become-a-top-game" released this year...if I missed some, it is because:

1. I've never ever heard of the game
2. It's a cheap-ass game, not worth mentioning...
Age of Mythology?

Icewind Dale 2?

Rise of Nations?

Championship Manager 4?

... maybe some of these games won't make it out before the end of the year ... but I'm sure some will and they'll most likely be worthy of a mention.

Even so it'll be very hard (impossible?) to beat Warcraft and Morrowind, IMHO (NWN also).

(Civ3 PtW too? )
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Edit: Sorry thought this was quoted from a wrong post

IOW: I agree with frustrated poet on this, IMO the best games of this year are yet to come.
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I'm pretty sure RoN will be released next year. I kinda hope that Sid's X-COM/Settlers hybrid comes out next year too. I'd like to see two of their strategy games go head to head in a year. Otherwise we'd have to wait until 2005 or so for the next possible matchup.
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Age of Mythology?

Icewind Dale 2?

Rise of Nations?

Championship Manager 4?

... maybe some of these games won't make it out before the end of the year ... but I'm sure some will and they'll most likely be worthy of a mention.

Even so it'll be very hard (impossible?) to beat Warcraft and Morrowind, IMHO (NWN also).

(Civ3 PtW too? )
Please read this from my first post:

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And this is only games that have been released, not "to-be-released" games...
Which means: Games that are not released yet, shouldn't be on the list (Sorry, if there's games on the list that haven't been released yet, I haven't checked every game, to be sure they are released)...

We could make a poll on the most interesting not-released games (but are going to be released within a year or so)...

I might set up such poll later on, but I'm not that familiar with not-released games, so if you have some games that should be in that poll, pm me...before I make the poll...If I get anough titles I will proberbly set make a poll in a few days (If there's interest...)
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OK, that's fair enough, but this isn't about percentages, it's about absolutes. Pre-Christmas usually sees more good games than spring, in absolute terms. S

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Well, it would be, if that happened. But if that happened, wouldn't that top 10 list have a lot more gaqmes spread throught the year, rather than November-December time?

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So you can't say it's the top games of the year poll, can you? Because the year is nowhere near finished.
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Which means: Games that are not released yet, shouldn't be on the list
So you can't say it's the top games of the year poll, can you? Because the year is nowhere near finished.
It's about the games you have played...I can't say e.g. SimCity 4 is the top #1 game of the year, because I haven't played it yet...sure it would be better to make this poll at the end of the year...but I wanted to make the poll now...
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