July 23, 2002, 18:32
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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Those Blasted Barbarians!
I just started a new game as Germany. Huge map, everything else random. I got planted right in the middle of the Garden of Eden... wheat, river, hills, mountains, and cattle. I find a goody hut nearby, after finishing my first Warrior... Okay, I say, this could be good.
I go after the thing, and.. you guessed it... out popped 3 barbarians.
I killed off the first one, and the second one killed ME off without taking a point of damage... ouch. The third one destroys my Worker... double ouch. The same guy raids Berlin and kills some guys... triple ouch. And then the other one that killed off my Warrior stops by, and I get the message "Barbarians have destroyed the City Walls". Uh.... ouch times four? Being that I'm Scientific and Militaristic and haven't even discovered Masonry, how is it that I lost my City Walls?
I later discovered that I had no Palace... 
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July 23, 2002, 18:55
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Emperor
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That's wacked. Can you post it?
Don;t open nearby goody huts without having a garrison.
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July 23, 2002, 21:05
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Prince
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I later discovered that I had no Palace...
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That happened to me once.  I had to build a new palace when I was just starting out. I wonder if the AI suffers this penalty...
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July 23, 2002, 21:18
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King
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I once had a game where the AI killed three settlers (one of them was even guarded with a warrior but was destroyed by the Massive Barbarian Uprising)... and to boot, an undefended city was walloped by a barbarian uprising in that same exact turn and dropped my treasury from over 300 to 62 gold in a single turn... during the BCs no less! That's at least 50 turns worth of gold hording! ouch!
D*mmit! That's the last time I leave all my gold in an undefended frontier city! 
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July 24, 2002, 11:38
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Prince
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D*mmit! That's the last time I leave all my gold in an undefended frontier city!
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So how do you move your gold out of a city? Or did I miss the Brinks truck unit upgrade? 
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July 24, 2002, 13:30
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Warlord
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Perhaps raging Barbs get bonuses. In one of my Monarch games the barbs manage to kill 4 of my vet archer with minimal sufering. I used to hold off uprising of 10-25 horseman barb with 2 spearman but now, I cant contain then.
On emperor, I have yet to stumble upon a goody hut that didn't contain Barbarians.
It's not fun having 16 horsie barb pilliage your treasury to several gold.
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July 24, 2002, 13:34
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Deity
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BTW: can you start a game without a palace? Is this possible in the editor?
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July 24, 2002, 13:37
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Prince
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Yes. You can create a city in the editor without a palace, then build it later when you reach construction (perhaps masonery, forgive my lapse of memory at the moment).
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July 24, 2002, 13:54
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Warlord
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i think your palace acts as city walls to give a defense bonus to your capitol. ive had this happen as well and got blown away with corruption. best thing to do is avoid huts next to your capital if you dont have atleast 2 spearman garrisoned there.
i think thats why we have the " quick start " option 
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July 24, 2002, 14:10
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Firaxis Games Programmer/Designer
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I suppose I'm just too much of a risk-taker to live with letting a nice goody hut sit there so close for 1500 years. I closed my eyes when I hit the thing, since I knew what was going to come out. Boy did I wince when I opened my eyes.
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