Firaxian Idiocy - Page 2

FrustratedPoet · July 26, 2002, 06:29

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Originally posted by sabrewolf

most is anglifized in civ3, which is a real shame.

other wrong written leader names, here correct(er):

jeanne d'arc
mao zedong (wrong too, but nearer)
iulius caesar
katarina (the great)

not to speak about all the cities. is too much expected to have "köln" instead of "cologne" or "münchen" instead of "munich"?

is it too much to ask? no, it isn't.

you have an editor. use it. that's what it is for.

sabrewolf · July 26, 2002, 06:57

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Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
is it too much to ask? no, it isn't.

you have an editor. use it. that's what it is for.

that's not my point.

ignorance shouldn't be supported. people could learn historical and geographical things with civilization, why not teach it to them properly?

btw: changing every single mod i try and test would be too anoying. i just do the 3-4 most (to me) important things...

HazieDaVampire · July 26, 2002, 07:05

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Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
It's a game, and furthermore, each time you play its on a completely fictional world with wars that never happened with civilizations that never encountered each other due to differences in time, space, or both. Therefore, the leaders and civs could be completely fictional, and it will still be exactly the same

So your saying you wouldn't give a **** if patton was king of America?

Carver · July 26, 2002, 08:59

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Originally posted by sabrewolf

that's not my point.

ignorance shouldn't be supported. people could learn historical and geographical things with civilization, why not teach it to them properly?

btw: changing every single mod i try and test would be too anoying. i just do the 3-4 most (to me) important things...

Its not ignorance its western tradition. In the west countries and cities have different names in different languages. In English Germany is called Germany, in French its called Allemand. I've never understood WTF that's about. If the Germans call it Deutschland that's what everyone should call it. But that's not what we do. Firaxis was just doing the same thing everyone else does.

HazieDaVampire · July 26, 2002, 09:03

I Think we should call the countrys how they call it!
Scotland, not damn Schotland.

Martinus Magnificus · July 26, 2002, 09:05

As a person that values historical accuracy a lot, I want to add two things to this discussion:

- first, complexity. Civ 3 is a game . Making it completely historically accurate, would be impossible to achieve and it would make the game unplayable
- second, fun. Imagine a game that is completely historacally accurate. Every game would be identical, and the outcome would be exactly the same. That wouldn't be much fun, now would it? Much of the fun in playing Civ III is based upon the fact that you can change history!!!

All I'm saying is that Civ III cannot and should not be a history book.
However, where complexity and fun do not prevent it, I think a game like Civ III should be as accurate as possible from a historical point of view. This means that I can live with Hannibal as the leader of the Cartaginians (although it would be better if they named him general and his people Phoenicians), though I have serious problems with Abe Lincoln and the Americans in 4000 BC (IMO it would be more fun to have the Americans proclaim their independence at some point in the game - bring back the concept of civil wars!!). Other examples are easily given.

HazieDaVampire · July 26, 2002, 09:06

were not talking about the Scenarios!

Hoznog · July 26, 2002, 15:05

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accordning to legends, rome was founded by two guys (romulus, remus) razed by wolves ... maybe greek wolves?

Romulus and Remus were descendants of Aeneas. Aeneas founded a city in Southern Italy after his home city was destroyed.... by the Greeks. Aeneas was one of the defenders of Troy.

HazieDaVampire · July 26, 2002, 15:07

But they were razed by wolves, and don't dis that or my mum'll come and bight your legs off and nor at your toes!

Soviet Beast · July 28, 2002, 01:46

I would like to see Canada with the Jean Chretien leaderhead.. I know he is a complete moron but it would be a good laugh.

MODERATOR ACTION: Haha! yeah Jean Chretien is an idiot.. but then again look at the morons on this forum.

notyoueither · July 28, 2002, 02:42

Carthago delenda est!

Needed to be said.

notyoueither · July 28, 2002, 02:43

BTW. Who is that guy with the maple leaf who posted before me? Must be an imposter. Can that be corrected?

Gangerolf · July 28, 2002, 09:32

change his title from king to general and everyones happy
many rulers have called themselves general, eg Franco.

Krayzeenbk · July 28, 2002, 10:38

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Originally posted by sabrewolf

most is anglifized in civ3, which is a real shame.

other wrong written leader names, here correct(er):

jeanne d'arc
mao zedong (wrong too, but nearer)
iulius caesar
katarina (the great)

not to speak about all the cities. is too much expected to have "köln" instead of "cologne" or "münchen" instead of "munich"?

I'm not participating in this argument, but it's katerina (or ekaterina/yekaterina for extreme accuracy) not katarina

Most of these changes can be made in the editor btw

History Guy · July 28, 2002, 23:52

Firaxian idiocy, eh? Well...perhaps then it would make everyone be all the more pleased if they simply abandoned the Civilization series right now, then. The constant jumping of Firaxis for how it chooses to make the game is rather tiring. If you do not like how it's made, then don't buy it.