OFFICIAL poll: Declaration of War on America

Ninot · July 24, 2002, 20:18

This poll hereby asks the citizens of Apolytonia if they will allow the propper ministers (SMC, FAM) the power to declare war the instant they deem the most oportune, against the United States of America.

The Question: Can we declare war on America?
The Options:
1: Yes
2: No

This poll is to ensure that, if in a turnchat, should the appropiate ministers feel we should declare war on the spot, they will be able to democratically and instantly, rather than ending the turnchat for a poll. The goal is to ensure no turnchats in the immediate future are ended prematurely to decide on a declaration of war

The poll will last 3 days.

July 24, 2002, 20:21

Yes. No point stalling the inevitable.

Jon Shafer · July 24, 2002, 20:36

Abstain.
After losing another 9 Archers in an assault on 2 Spearmen, I fear what consequences may befall our civilization...

Mr. President · July 24, 2002, 20:44

The worst thing that can happen is that we lose in a horrible bloody massacre.

Ninot · July 24, 2002, 20:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. President
The worst thing that can happen is that we lose in a horrible bloody massacre.

you make it sound so bad

i prefer to think of it as a slight but quick switch to a silky red skin pigmentation.

Mr. President · July 24, 2002, 20:53

How 'bout a Temporary Emancipation Status Modification as the consequence of defeat?

Robber Baron · July 24, 2002, 20:55

Aye.
It may turn out to be a grim bit of business.
But I really do believe it's our only way to dig out into a viable position.

Epistax · July 24, 2002, 20:56

We must destroy the americans. They eat bananas in ways that are blasphemous.

Kuciwalker · July 24, 2002, 21:25

One thing is for sure, if we don't win, a LOT of people will leave because there's no point any more (or at least they think that). I may very well be one of them.

Epistax · July 24, 2002, 21:30

Escape route = uber isle

Remember the only way we are off poorly is our land, all of which can be turned into grassland. In the case of a military flop, i'd suggest making peace ASAP, then quickly building all the cities bunched into our area we can, terraforming as much as possible. We have the room and the method, just not the will (yet).

Kuciwalker · July 24, 2002, 21:32

No - if we lose this war, we lose the game, barring a miracle.

Ninot · July 24, 2002, 22:02

Well, despite what position I hold, i plant to stick around till the end.

Aggie · July 24, 2002, 22:33

Well the way I see it here's the situation. If we do nothing but try to settle we will lose. If we attack we might lose, but we have the odds in our favor. So I say attack, all that can happen is we lose quicker than we would have anyway. Perhaps our luck will be different than trip's in his recent attack he spoke of. Maybe we'll win with no loses.(I know it is unlikely, actually ~9%, but still it could happen) But I do know the odds of winning the game as a whole are nonexistant if we do nothing. Also this attack will raise interest in a game that seems to be losing people. Additionally we need to increase the pace of the game, people want to talk about civ, not rules and regulations. We do this to kill time between events, but I'd rather be invading or fighting rather than writing. So ninot if you want to do turnchats fri/sat go for it, heck if you want to do turnthreads everyday to get things moving, do it. If you suceed in speeding this game up I can just about guarantee you reelection. Sorry about the extra stuff about game speed, but I figured if I post it here, people will see it.
Aggie

UnOrthOdOx · July 24, 2002, 22:36

Still can't vote. I'm a member of the Hawk Party, what do you think I would vote, anyway?

Apocalypse · July 24, 2002, 22:37

Yes, if we lose this war we'll still probably lose if we prepare a little longer. Nothing much more can be done, we have a bad starting position. If we are going to lose, let's get it over with.

jdd2007 · July 24, 2002, 23:30

yes, we shall win

Aro · July 25, 2002, 00:23

Iacta alea est!

The die is cast!

(According to Suetonius, said by Julius Caesar when he crossed the Rubicon.)

GoodFella · July 25, 2002, 01:57

*sigh*
Yes, declare war.

I wish we had more archers but we can't delay any longer.

Damn thing still won't let me vote though.

Kramerman · July 25, 2002, 01:59

YES!
Strike now while the iron is hot! Thats what I say.
btw, has anybody seen my spoon?

Kman

Inverse Icarus · July 25, 2002, 01:59

i'm going to vote no just for the irony. :-D

nah, i'll vote yes.

our attacks will go great. you non-believers shall join the american dead if you again question the ability of my troops!

Kramerman · July 25, 2002, 02:02

Quote:

Originally posted by UberKruX
i'm going to vote no just for the irony. :-D

nah, i'll vote yes.

our attacks will go great. you non-believers shall join the american dead if you again question the ability of my troops!

Awww. You should of voted no. It would of been funny! I am worried of our attack, though. What if..

kring · July 25, 2002, 02:13

How does this poll affect a turnchat on either Thursday or Friday since it would still be in effect if war became an option on either day, if we do have a Thursday turnchat.

Ninot · July 25, 2002, 02:19

Quote:

Originally posted by kring
How does this poll affect a turnchat on either Thursday or Friday since it would still be in effect if war became an option on either day, if we do have a Thursday turnchat.

well, a few people have pointed out the COL actually says nothing about what kinda poll we need to actually declare war.. so this might just be a little formality we may ignore unless it starts towards a lot of no votes

but if its going towards yes anyways, thers no harm in going into war a day earlier.

GoodFella · July 25, 2002, 02:19

Well, I do have confidence in your abilities Uber.

Guardian · July 25, 2002, 02:34

I voted yes. I guess the Americans really haven't offended us in any way yet, but... well, they are simply in our way and we have to break out of the jungle one way or another if we're going to stand a chance later on.

/me looks over at the unsuspecting Americans just across the border...

-Sorry lads, but that's just the way it is.

Sad but true.

Inverse Icarus · July 25, 2002, 02:37

Fellow Apolytonians, we shall be eating Hamburgers cooked in New York fairly soon.

American fast food will suppliment the healthy banannas we have.

Kramerman · July 25, 2002, 02:45

For a second there I thought you were going to say we would be eating hamburgers made out of Americans. Wow... why in hell would I think that? Im either sick, or subconciously think Uber might say something that. He is a brutal military man, after all.

notyoueither · July 25, 2002, 03:04

Just took 3 cities from a civ losing 3 Archers in total. Faced an average of 2 spear per city.

Hell yes!

Sorry Trip, but sometime or the other we have to test our metal. Later would be worse.

GoodFella · July 25, 2002, 03:08

At least we won't be eating snails in France...

yet.

Jon Shafer · July 25, 2002, 03:18

Quote:

Originally posted by notyoueither
Just took 3 cities from a civ losing 3 Archers in total. Faced an average of 2 spear per city.

Hell yes!

Sorry Trip, but sometime or the other we have to test our metal. Later would be worse.

I lost 18 once in a single turn.

After about 10 I just got so sick of the game I launched everyone else, and lo and behold, they all met their graves outside that city.
How many are we attacking with again? Any less than 7 or 8 and it gets very iffy if we lose the first battle...
(Shutup UK, you haven't rigged Ninney's random # generator so don't say a word

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