Safe to say these following five civs will be in?

GoodFella · July 25, 2002, 01:40

Spain
Mongolia
Ottoman Empire
Carthage
Vikings
?-?-?-?-?
?-?-?-?-?
?-?-?-?-?

Inverse Icarus · July 25, 2002, 02:35

Korea is in.

Inverse Icarus · July 25, 2002, 02:36

oh, and Celts (or their kin). Emperor Brueneus (i cant spell and im not looking it up)

Solver · July 25, 2002, 04:22

Ottomans, Spain, Viking, Carthage, Korea = Confirmed (5). Celts or Gaulls = either is in. (6).

Leaves us with two more, possibly Turks or Arabs, but those are likely not in, since the Ottomans are - Incans and Mayans can be in, though.

I've already stated that for many European players there will actually be too much Asian civs.

Jay Bee · July 25, 2002, 05:03

solver, you're missing the mongols

Nubclear · July 25, 2002, 05:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Solver
Ottomans, Spain, Viking, Carthage, Korea = Confirmed (5). Celts or Gaulls = either is in. (6).

Leaves us with two more, possibly Turks or Arabs, but those are likely not in, since the Ottomans are - Incans and Mayans can be in, though.

I've already stated that for many European players there will actually be too much Asian civs.

Whoa, have I missed something?

I never heard Firaxxis say the Koreans were in.

Liam III · July 25, 2002, 05:45

Any ideas on their qualities? UU?

This discussion about who's in started ages ago, I can't believe it hasn't finished yet!

Solver · July 25, 2002, 06:43

Yeah, I missed Mongols, stupid me

.

Right, we only have 1 civ we don't know for sure. Well, generally 2 - 1 is we don't know if it's Celts or Gaulls, 2nd we don't know at all, though rumors are Incans, Arabs or Turks.

Firaxis said Korea is in in one of the chats.

WarpStorm · July 25, 2002, 07:54

My guess is these:

Spanish
Carthaginians
Vikings
Celts
Korea
Ottoman
Mongols
Arabs

Q Classic · July 25, 2002, 11:31

which chat? i'd like confirmation...

Solver · July 25, 2002, 12:58

I think 1.21f.

Ribannah · July 25, 2002, 13:14

Firaxis mentions Genghis Khan (Mongols), Hannibal (Carthage), Isabella (Spain) and Brennus (Gauls), and their screenshots also show the Vikings (Norse?).

Inverse Icarus · July 25, 2002, 13:20

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Originally posted by Q Cubed
which chat? i'd like confirmation...

Firaxis was "duped" into saying Korea was in.

someoe asked a few questions about Korea, and this is what got him (IIRC, this is all from memory)

poly guy: "Is the Hwacha an artillery unit?"

firaxis: "yes"

poly guy: "Aren't the Koreans at a disadvantage for getting a golden age with an artillery unit?"

firaxis: "Would you say the Americans are at a disadvantage? But, then again, I know a few more things about PTW than you do."

Q Classic · July 25, 2002, 13:47

ah, yes, i remember that.

but i'd hope there would be something much more solid.

Darkworld Ark · July 25, 2002, 13:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Solver
Leaves us with two more, possibly Turks or Arabs, but those are likely not in, since the Ottomans are - Incans and Mayans can be in, though.

Ottomans & Turks are the same civ.

Quote:

Originally posted by UberKruX

poly guy: "Is the Hwacha an artillery unit?"

firaxis: "yes"

poly guy: "Aren't the Koreans at a disadvantage for getting a golden age with an artillery unit?"

firaxis: "Would you say the Americans are at a disadvantage? But, then again, I know a few more things about PTW than you do."

That doesn't necisarily conferm that the Koreans are in, the Hwacha could be a new artillery that you get at gunpowder.

So far, the only civs that have been 'officialy' released are;
Spanish, Mongol, Celts, Viking, Ottoman, & Carthage.

monkspider · July 25, 2002, 15:24

Surely there will be at least one American civ, right? But if not, perhaps Firaxis is strategically holding back a few really cool civs for the next XP.

Luis G. · July 25, 2002, 17:31

...so...

Carthaginians
Celts
Mongols
Ottomans
Spaniards
Vikings
Koreans

Since we have the Ottomans already, I don't think they are going to include another muslim civ.

If they want to cover the whole earth surface, they will probably include the Incas, but I don't think it's very likely to see a civ from Oceania in PTW (the polynesians, for example).

Luis G. · July 25, 2002, 17:35

By the way, are the Koreans already confirmed ? ? ?

Luis G. · July 25, 2002, 17:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Luis G.
By the way, are the Koreans already confirmed ? ? ?

sorry, I missed the reply above...

Ribannah · July 25, 2002, 19:21

Once again: Firaxis' site confirms the following civs (text + screenshots):

Carthage, Gauls, Mongols, Spain, Vikings

Korea is not mentioned (yet).

dnassman · July 25, 2002, 19:33

I think the Arabs are out actually. Looks like the figure head of what looked like an Arab leader previously might be the ottomans leader. Not happy!!!!

Dom Pedro II · July 25, 2002, 20:20

Well, I also remembered that they asked if the Hwacha was part of some Japanese pack or a second UU for the Japanese. Firaxis said no, so unless the Hwacha is going to be a generalized artillery unit, it has got to be for the Koreans.

Solver · July 26, 2002, 07:07

Wrong. Firaxis said that Hwacha is a Unique Unit, because they said it can trigger a Golden Age. It's all in that chat.

lockstep · July 26, 2002, 10:50

Quote:

Originally posted by dnassman
I think the Arabs are out actually. Looks like the figure head of what looked like an Arab leader previously might be the ottomans leader. Not happy!!!!

You're right IMO. And while I'd like to see the Arabs in (even more than the Turks/Ottomans), there is at least hope now that the Incas are civ no. 8.

Darkworld Ark · July 26, 2002, 15:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Solver
Wrong. Firaxis said that Hwacha is a Unique Unit, because they said it can trigger a Golden Age. It's all in that chat.

I thought they said it can't trigger a Golden Age because it can't kill anybody.

Quote:

firaxis: "Would you say the Americans are at a disadvantage? But, then again, I know a few more things about PTW than you do."

WarpStorm · July 27, 2002, 12:29

Maybe they have Lethal Bombard.

dnassman · July 28, 2002, 20:18

lockstep, I hope you are right about the Incas being in because then at least it I could take the loss of not having the Arabs in a bit better.