This is what happens when you don't get HG on deity

HappySunShine · July 27, 2002, 14:53

Whoever gets HG first, wins.

Rasbelin · July 27, 2002, 15:55

I don't get the point and relevance with this message.

So we're now supposed to download that file and play until hell freezes... Right?

HappySunShine · July 27, 2002, 16:11

that didn't even make any sense you stupid ****. If you can't be intelligent then don't post. Is that so much to ask?

Rasbelin · July 27, 2002, 16:32

Sorry not being intelligent enough, and thanks for showing us how intelligent people post.

But my point was that you just simply stated that the first one to HG wins. Is this a contest or a succession game? You really don't have to be that brief. IMO.

War4ever · July 27, 2002, 17:16

he was pointing out the @ss kicking he gave oedo when he got HG first

SlowwHand · July 27, 2002, 18:50

Showing my ignorance again:

1) HG isn't so mandatory

2) Out of curiousity, who hosted?

War4ever · July 27, 2002, 19:36

probably Eyes.....
could've been Oedo

HappySunShine · July 27, 2002, 20:33

Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.

Alexander's Horse · July 27, 2002, 21:42

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Originally posted by HappySunShine
Oedo couldn't host because he was behind a firewall.

Oh well he was screwed from the start then

We are not going to pay any more attention to you Eyes until you post a photo of yourself on the Rogues Gallery thread

War4ever · July 27, 2002, 22:38

pipe down criminal

deity · July 27, 2002, 23:47

so if oedo got HG he would have won?

Ming · July 27, 2002, 23:54

So eyes won... congrats.

But to claim that HG is the only factor is not proved by a single game... I've had games in duels where I've had it and won... and games where I've had it and gotten killed... HG is only one element. Good land, or excellent luck with huts are also key elements... because they can make or break a game just as much as having or not having HG

Plus, if you get beat to HG... nothing says you can't just go and take it from your opponent

SmartFart · July 28, 2002, 00:21

Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

Rasputin · July 28, 2002, 00:58

another good reason to avoid duels !!!!

War4ever · July 28, 2002, 01:28

yup...i like pyramids too Smartfart.....reproducing is key in civ..and pyramids make it a joy...and combined..lethal

markusf · July 28, 2002, 01:36

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Originally posted by SmartFart
Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

LH and pyramids are both better then HG, hg is a pretty useless early wonder. Its fun building it when playing players who don't know how to expand without it.

Ming · July 28, 2002, 03:24

I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it.

Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose.
If you don't know how to use them...

oedo · July 28, 2002, 06:19

too bad we can´t test eyes´ claim anymore, which is -as I think- as daring as my challenge to him was. he told me he will never play any deity games anymore.

but so it be, one can´t force people to their luck.

Hydey · July 28, 2002, 06:40

well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.

Ming · July 28, 2002, 11:28

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Originally posted by Hydey
well I'm sure if Eyes is not going to play deity games anymore then he will not be commenting about deity games either.

Yeah... right....

markusf · July 28, 2002, 12:01

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Originally posted by Ming
I wouldn't call HG useless... but you can play without it.

Pyramids... lighthouse... like HG, they serve a purpose.
If you don't know how to use them...

I am talking about 1x 1x here. In 2x most wonders are useless. because you would get way further ahead creating trade routes with those cara's

HappySunShine · July 28, 2002, 12:08

HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

markusf · July 28, 2002, 12:24

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Originally posted by HappySunShine
HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

I was replying to ming and his settings. On 2x 1x diety pyramids is useless, SOL is useless, bachs is useless. Now in a MP game it doesn't matter to much if you get happies or not, where as in a duel it gives a huge advantage to your production and attacking abilities.

Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG.

HappySunShine · July 28, 2002, 15:53

"Last time we played your civ completely self destructed when you didn't get HG."

Exactly. You have to have HG in order to win. And in order to get HG first you have to have the better science. That game you had whales and everything around you. Your capital was a whale anda pheasant. Your second and third cities had whales. My city had wheat and forest. The only whale I had was 10 squares away. Whoever has the better science gets HG first, whoever has HG first wins the game. I rest my case.

War4ever · July 28, 2002, 17:55

Eyes do you think that about EVERY level...or are we talking about specific settings ?

DrSpike · July 28, 2002, 19:30

I think he means deity games.

The way I see it HG is useful in MP 1x deity games but not crucial to victory. In duels the balance changes towards Eyes' statement, but there are other happy wonders; Mikes can come quite early, and unless the land is very mismatched one player shouldn't get both.

Alexander's Horse · July 28, 2002, 21:40

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Originally posted by SmartFart
Pyramids are much more dangerous if used properly.

I think so too - you get growth in every form of government.

War4ever · July 29, 2002, 00:45

pyramids help both the pre WLT*D and the post WLT*D

but obviously are much more beneficial early...especially in those PG games

SmartFart · July 29, 2002, 03:28

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Originally posted by HappySunShine
HAHAHA!!! Ok Markus, you want to play it that way? First we'll play 2x2x, don't even build any wonders and lets see if you can beat me. Then lets play deity 1x1x and I'll let you have pyramids and lighthouse. I get HG and mikes though. Still think you can win? Ask woke and Oedo what lighthouse did for them.

If I got the Pyramids on deity x1x1,you'll never get Mike. And even if you do (highly improbable) I'll have Bach.

SmartFart · July 29, 2002, 03:35

...and that's quite enough to kick your ass. Now...how about a game?