CCCP's Workshop. - Page 3

Pandemoniak · August 12, 2002, 14:41

Comrade Gnool,

I just read your thread and re-read your message about Police State. I agree that putting a police state for a short time can be very profitable (ie right before you build many bases in the same turn, and then you switch back to democracy for the growth bonus, but you have the free minerals for founding new bases).
Honestly, this is an option when some drastic threats are coming, its sometimes better to save our lives than to go with freedom of speech. Despite that, the CCCP doesnt support Police State for several off-game and in-game reasons.

1. We are playing the Peacekeepers, we cannot go with Police State.
2. Roleplay, choosing Police State in politics would mean that the Democracy Game forums are closed until we switch back to Democracy, and only the Commissioner (and maybe the directors) plays the game. Quite boring...

1. The CCCP has been founded to give Marxism a new chance, and so we must not do the same mistakes that others marxists made on Earth.
2.

That would be too much an argument for these damn pigs of P4 and CP to say we are actually fascists ! (We are not fascists

)

DeathByTheSword · August 12, 2002, 14:59

He WE are no pigs......apes maybe.....but no pigs

Pandemoniak · August 12, 2002, 16:05

hey, you ARE pigs, like in "capitalist pigs"... doesnt the P in P4 go for Pigs ?

DeathByTheSword · August 12, 2002, 16:10

haha (sarcastic laugh) we DO support a FM and we DO support freedom of speech and well just simple freedom and you do not with you extreme points of view......

Pandemoniak · August 12, 2002, 16:15

Well, I am FREE to support extreme points of views.

DeathByTheSword · August 12, 2002, 16:24

Yes but the citizens of your bases arent allowed to choose there own jobs?!

?

Pandemoniak · August 12, 2002, 16:29

They are. They just know that they will be more efficient and more happy by doing certain jobs. No misery push our citizens to do rubbish jobs for a living, they do it cause they like it and know they are the most efficient at this job and thus they make the whole mankind more happy.

DeathByTheSword · August 12, 2002, 16:31

Yeah sure............. dont use your propaganda on use Pande

Pandemoniak · August 12, 2002, 16:54

This is no propaganda, it is information. When you give your informations this is propaganda, but when WE say things, it is not propaganda but information. Dont you think the same ?

lucky22 · August 12, 2002, 17:20

Some people will prefer the free time and freedom of action in off-hours that comes with a cruddy job like cleaning the recycling tanks. An engineer's life will be consumed by his or her occupation- much less partying. Others won't have a choice simply based on background and even the generations of of their families.
We of the CCCP will not use this as an excuse to starve the recycling tank cleaner. Europe today seems to be doing much better on this one in the early 21st century than the land of starving service-sector laborers I call home.

Gnool · August 13, 2002, 07:14

Seeing I'm a "populace rerporter" for the Unity News Network and a member of the CCCP, I thought that perhaps I could write an article giving the CCCP's response to Crisler (a fundamentalist) being elected as First Commissioner. So CCCP members, post your views here.

Pandemoniak · August 13, 2002, 11:54

As the CCCP founder, I just wish to congratulate Crisler for his voctory, that no one could have predict. I am glad to see that he shares in his faith some very important points of the CCCP party line : banning atrocity, grow and multiply, provide best life conditions to everyone. It is, I think, quite a good thing after all that he has been elected before our landing on Planet, since despite our common views on certain things, we must not confuse the will of workers, and we must not call them the "words of god" (please notice that I dont put a G but a g). As long as our faction will stay a laik state, he will have all my friendship as a convinced humanist, as long as he keeps acting for the wellbeing of every man and woman on Planet.

Pandemoniak,
in [U]Open letter to the First Commissioner[/I]

To Gnoll, please arrange what I said in your article, it cannot be sent to the UNN just like this...

lucky22 · August 13, 2002, 12:51

>>So CCCP members, post your views here.

It was a bit of a surprise that Crisler won. Views-wise, there is certainly a lot of cross-over between a forthright fundamentalist and a humanist Marxist. As ever, though, the fundamentalist is vastly more likely to accept the great whore machine grinding our sons and daughters into human sausage and label it a recieved gift beyond the power of mammals to develop. On the plus side, we will no doubt have much in common regarding atrocities, and as Pan has pointed out Crisler certainly opposes punishment spheres.

Nubclear · August 13, 2002, 14:41

I'd just like to take this time to remind everyone that everyday...I watch ALL threads....

So be careful what you say.....(Hey, it's almost like a police state of its own!"

DeathByTheSword · August 13, 2002, 15:37

BIG....I mean LITTLE

Brother is watching You....

So get the Hunter-seeker algorithm

now for only 999 Dollars and 99 cents.

(offer last until stock Is empty)

Gnool · August 13, 2002, 19:48

Thanks Pandemoniak & Lucky 22, I'm writing my article now

.

Gnool · August 15, 2002, 03:28

Woohoo, my article is in the UNN

Click here to read it. Feedback welcome.

Main_Brain · August 16, 2002, 17:10

The Sun certainly shined upon ya Gnool!

lucky22 · August 16, 2002, 22:09

I second Main_Brain. Fine work, Gnool!

Gnool · August 16, 2002, 22:45

Thanks

Pandemoniak · August 16, 2002, 22:58

Congratulations, Gnool. You're doing well for our great party ! You're doing great for yourself ! Therefore, you're doing great for mankind !?

Post count today in CCCP's Workshop, 08/17/02, 5:00am CET
Pandemoniak 23
TKG 12

lucky22 10
DeathByTheSword 8

M@ni@c 7

Gnool 6
Tassadar5000 4
Juliennew 3

Main_Brain 2
themagicbanana 1

Main_Brain · August 17, 2002, 04:46

But they are Quality Posts not Quantity Posts!

Pandemoniak · August 17, 2002, 04:51

Exaclty !

Method · August 17, 2002, 13:47

let's not forget that one was a *cough cough* post, and another was an ***ignore the *cough cough* posts*** post.

Reviewing page one, it seems you were bashing free market from the moment this party began...

lucky22 · August 17, 2002, 14:25

TKG: Free Market methodology is inherently deceptive and exploitative. Our Factional goal on Chiron should certainly obtain to moral triumph rather than linear and arbitrary victory condition fulfillment now that we're a democracy of sentients, shouldn't it? We can stay militarily safe with planned and green economic decisions,

Main_Brain · August 18, 2002, 04:55

Free market wont support our Conquest of our nearest Neighbour

(Preferably Zak

)

DeathByTheSword · August 18, 2002, 07:01

here we go again

Method · August 18, 2002, 10:11

i dont want to get into it. war under market is entirely possible, and until it is (choppers and drop units) then we'd use green.

Pandemoniak · August 18, 2002, 10:23

Of course, we'll use green, you dont think we'll REALLY go under free market at anytime, do you ?

Pandemoniak · August 19, 2002, 15:44

CCCP Annoucement :
We officially welcome our SEVENTH in the CCCP, Thorsius.

The elections for Directorates started today, and two CCCP memebers are running for directors :

Lucky22 for Directorate of Base Production
Pandemoniak for Directorate of Colonization and Terraforming