August 15, 2002, 16:55
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how about an enigma that I cannot understand.
Alexander = Sasha ? 
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August 15, 2002, 17:02
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Then there are the ones that sound funny, even if they make sense.
For example, I always feel like I should excuse myself after saying 'Bert'.
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August 15, 2002, 17:40
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Originally posted by rah
Doesn't Tony come from Antonio?
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anthony, i believe
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August 15, 2002, 17:47
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In mexico we call Antonio "Toño", Jose becomes "Chepe" or "Pepe", Xavier becomes "Japos", Francisco "Paco", Ernesto "nestor", Fidel "fide", and so on....
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August 15, 2002, 19:22
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Except for the Fransisco->Paco transition, those all seem quite natural to me. Of course, that's assuming both Jose and Pepe come from some ancient bastardised latin form of Joseph with a good P sound at the end, aikin to the italian Guiseppe.
Another English one: Philippa -> Pippa.
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August 15, 2002, 20:19
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The one name that I always found intriguing, but for all the wrong reasons, is Bubba. Where did this name come from, and who in their right mind would call their child by it?
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August 15, 2002, 22:09
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Here's another one. Joaquim = Jajo.
I can appreciate Katherine = Kate, Benjamin = Ben .... etc. The spelling is close enough, and the short form make it easy to call the person.
But I still find it difficuilt to understand why William = Bill, Richard = D*ck, and some of the other examples. Can anyone help ?
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August 15, 2002, 22:15
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Originally posted by DanS
Harold is called Hal
Henry is called Harry or Hank
Katherine is called Kate
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Actually, according to that "name" thread "Hal" is short for Henry, not Harold.
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August 15, 2002, 23:09
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Johnathon - John or Jon
Nathaniel (or Nathanael) - goes to Nathan or Nate
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August 16, 2002, 00:07
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Updated my list. Any more names to contribute ? 
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August 16, 2002, 00:23
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Originally posted by Ethelred
The French version of John is Jaque
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Jacques is James
Jean is John
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August 16, 2002, 01:05
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robert = rob, robbie [robby]
michael = mike, mikey
but these are all logical. The william-bill, jamse-jim, richard-****, etc are unknown to me 
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August 16, 2002, 01:23
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Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
Except for the Fransisco->Paco transition, those all seem quite natural to me.
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Another nickname for Francisco in Spain is Curro, the most traditional one maybe, and the origin of the transition is really obscure and funny...
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August 16, 2002, 02:37
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Originally posted by Frogger
Jacques is James
Jean is John
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Nag, nag, nag, first a Canadian gets on me for mispelling Jaques now I get ragged on again for the same post instead of the Canadians getting it all over at once.
All right Mr. Smarty Frog.
Seames is James.
Sean is John.
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August 16, 2002, 06:44
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Originally posted by Ubergeek
Actually, Jack and Jacques are unrelated names that coincidentally sound the same. Jacques is, IIRC, the French version of James; the French version of John is Jean.
Jack came from Jonkin, a Germanic diminuative of the name John. Again, IIRC. 
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I always thought that Jacques is the French form for German Jakob (English maybe Jacob?)
And Jack may be the short form of Jacob.
Could be wrong, though, haven't been very intenely into that "origin of names" thing.
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August 16, 2002, 07:08
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oh, yes, that's a good question. how the **** did St. Jacob ( from the hebrew yaakov ) turned into "St. James" ??? what's wrong with the name Jacob?
and I want that 'sasha' question of mine answered. 
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August 16, 2002, 10:55
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Dal (I will NOT call ou Azazel  ), it comes from German.
Alexander was a popular name in Russia. Russia had close ties with Germany during the latter half of the 2nd millenia.
Alexander --> Aleksander --> Aleksasha (endearing nickname) --> Alek Sasha --> Sasha
Btw, Alexander is a kosher Jewish name.
When Alexander the great conquered Judea, the Jews were so happy they called all newborns "Alexander" for that year.
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August 16, 2002, 11:03
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Originally posted by Kassiopeia
I think it was developed to save disc space on computers in the 70's. 
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ROFLMAO
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August 16, 2002, 11:16
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August 16, 2002, 13:42
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I have seen Elizabeth shortened to "Beth," "Tish," or even "Fish."
I thought the short form for "Magaret" is "Maggie."
And "Sasha" is Russian.
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August 16, 2002, 14:35
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the question is how did " Alexander " was shortened into "Sasha" in russian.
I am not completely sure that siro is right, but it seems the most logical explanation.
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August 16, 2002, 15:03
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Is anyone going to answer my Bubba question from above?
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August 16, 2002, 15:32
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Originally posted by DanS
Same name, different origins. I know more Anthonys than Antonios still.
Oddly, I haven't heard any Antonios referred to as Tony.
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No one calls me Tony. Some do call me Tone. Most call me Ant.
On one occasion I had my name abbreviated to "Oine" (sic), pronounced as in Antoine, but without the Ant bit. (this abbreviation given me by a fit French bird  )
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August 16, 2002, 15:36
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And why does Robert become 'Bob'?
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August 16, 2002, 17:12
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Robert -> Rob -> Bob.
Classic example of a pet-form initial-change diminutive.
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August 16, 2002, 17:42
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Sarunas becomes Saras
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August 16, 2002, 17:44
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Any english man can tell you these.
Like immortal wombat said
Robert = Rob = Bob
William = Will = Bill
Richard = Rick = D1ck
The one i don't get is my gran's name
Elizabeth = Betty ?
Oh and as mentioned earlier, for the brits out there onlt you will get this
Kate is short for Bob.
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What about Bubba?
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August 16, 2002, 17:47
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Stop being such a ****, Richard.
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August 16, 2002, 17:49
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I can't hear the word "Bubba" without mentally suffixing "Fat-ass".
Maybe its just me...
Elizabeth = Eli, Eliza, Liza, Lisa, Beth, Betty
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