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Old August 21, 2002, 11:19   #91
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More precisly, I am a MArxist anarchist with some tendancy to highleymanism and chomskism.

I am messy in my head.
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Old August 21, 2002, 12:07   #92
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Comsky's not dialectical enough. His world view is too Platonic. I don't know this Highleyman.
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Elizabeth Highleyman is one of the founder of the Boston Black Roses, IIRC in 1988. I cant find any link except related to bisexuality/lesbians and gay, because she wrote that since anarchy must destroy all kinds of hierarchy, people should all be bisexual. This sound a bit strange, but for what I know, its quite well demonstrated, though.
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I don't want to be bisexual.
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I cant find any link except related to bisexuality/lesbians and gay, because she wrote that since anarchy must destroy all kinds of hierarchy, people should all be bisexual.
She sounds a little touched in the head.
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I'd like to have the dancing ability and fashion sense of a gay man, but that's about it.
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Coming from an evil greedy capitalist pig, she'll take it as a compliment.

Che, she doesnt says we HAVE to eb bisexual, she says we are all bisexuals, but some of us prefer male or prefer females. Anyway, her demonstration that preference is not hierarchy is brillinat. I will try find a link, and Ill send it.
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This is interesting stuff though... keep it coming Pandemoniak!

Che... I was afraid of that... maybe I'll give it a spin when the price drops a bit. Barely ever played WarCraft II after I bought it though, so not wanting to spend too much on something I may not play often.
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The final battle was impossible. I had to lower all my graphics levels to be able to scroll back and forth from my army to my town and I couldn't produce enough stuff fast enough to keep being overwhelmed. After five tries (45 minutes long) I gave up and hit reduce difficulty.
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The final battle was impossible.
It's meant to be a delaying action. The Human & Orc bases are expendable and are only meant to help delay the advances of the Burning Legion. They are supposed to fall.
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Oh, that's nice... you're supposed to lose the final battle... great...
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Oh, that's nice... you're supposed to lose the final battle... great...
That's correct. Your just supposed to take 45 minutes to do it. Unless you can point out someway to actually defeat the forces of the Burning Legion.
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Nope, no clue how on my end... don't even own the game... wasn't fond of the second one so I'm really leery about investing in the third.
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Your loss, I suppose.

Anyway, here is a wya to beat the final mission:

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The summit is the Circle of power to the top right of your base, near the gates. The undead base is at the bottom left corner, and their path will first reach the human settlement (Light blue) then the Orcs (red) then finally the Elven base (white.)

This is a purely defense map. It is near impossible to destroy the Undead base, as it can spawn infinite Burning Legion units (almost actually.) Not to mention that Archimonde is posing near the entrance, it is pretty difficult to gain entry.

Your first immediate task is to have a defense ready. Plug Ancient of Protector around strategic locations of the map, mainly the entrance of the bases. Next, mass up a large army, preferably balanced since the undead will mix up their units, hurling about mixed groups of 20 or so units.

The first task will be to hold the human settlement for as long as possible. The human base has a certain indentation that you could use as a funnel to flank the enemies, but be sure to have wisps on hand to repair the Ancients. Note that Shandria and Tyrande are there, so it helps a lot too.

Note that your heroes can die, since you can resurrect them at the altar (costly though.) Your general plan should be to have Furion join the other heroes. The Dryards make good support units, but keep your main focus on defense. Ballistae with the impalement upgrade are great, as well as mounted Hippogryphs. The gold mine will run out, but there is another one to the west. Don't forget you have two other allies to distract the undead. If you want, you could use some Hippogryphs to battle against the Frost Wyrms that they send. Usually they won't send more than 4 or 5. Gargoyles on the other hand number about 8-10 per attack.

There are several mercenary camps around your base. There are two just south, and another one to the north. You can hire some Furbolgs and Trolls if you wish, but they still take up resources.

The first half of the map isn't really that difficult. Mostly a mix of normal units. Try to make good use of your spells. Tranquility is a good spell to use, as well as the Druid's Roar.

However, near the 20 minute mark, Undead heroes will start appearing. There are three heroes that they use; Anktheron (level 10 Dreadlord,) Azgala (level 10 Pit Lord) and Rage Winterchill (level 10 Lich.) Also notice that wisps will start gathering at the Life Tree.

Towards the 10 minute mark, multiple undead heroes will start attacking you. The Druid of the Talon's Cyclone ability is useful here, allowing you to focus on the fodder before concentrating on the Hero. By now the human settlement should be razed, or at least badly damaged. Move to the orc base if you need to, since you pretty much will need to.

Towards the last few minutes, the pace will pick up so there will be a wave every 30 seconds or less. In the final Minute, Archimonde himself will start the ascent to the summit. This is more of a stalling game. Just flood the hell out of him, slamming every spell and attack you have on him. You should be able to wait out the full last minute here. Once you do, you have finished the Scenario, as well as the Nightelf Sentinel campaign and Warcraft 3.
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Or you could just look at this in-depth FAQ on that particular mission: Twilight of the Gods Strategy
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It's that good then?

Maybe it's the style of the game that doesn't peak my interest... I'll try and find somebody with a copy I can play around with... then I might get my own.
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Yes, you lose no matter what, you just have to not do it before 45 minutes are up. I couldn't do it. The best I got still had a couple of minutes left on the clock. After doing this five times, (read 3 hours 45 minutes) it got annoying, so I hit the reduced difficulty button. The end videos were hilarious. I laughed so hard!
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That might have made your job easier.
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It also would have been easier if I knew I could slow the damn game down. Argh! That's what I get for not exploring every single button. I didn't see a speed option in the documentation.
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I had to use the whosyourdaddy code to win that level... But after U kill Archimonde with one arrow, its no fun... anyway, You have about 3min to help the human base (where u hero is), meaning not enough time to gather any army...
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I held on to the human base for about 16 minutes. I held on to the Orc base for 17 minutes. That left 12 minutes to hold my base, I thought I could do it, I had acient defenders everywhere. The cut though me in nine. That was at my best.
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ar, u r just far better than me on war3 then...
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