Forced Victory Conditions Game #1 - Page 2

shadowlord3 · August 20, 2002, 23:26

2101 to SMH.

smhfan86 · August 20, 2002, 23:56

I've played the turn, unfortunately, there is one more problem to report. all my social engineering is at 0. Meaning, my Cyborgs don't get the +2research and efficiency, etc.

On a smaller note, my energy allocation settings were at 100% econ and 0% labs, but that can be easily fixed by changing it to 50/50 by yourself. So I suggest you remember that for next time.

I'll send an email to let Hobbes know.

H0bbes · August 21, 2002, 02:13

Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!1 @#$%$#@#*&%$##$% and other thoughts like that. I must be way rustier than I thought. I have done this many times before though you'd never know!

Redone AGAIN! & sent to Flameflash. Everything else is the same. I have checked both techs & SE & they are correct. Thanks for your forebearance!

smhfan86 · August 21, 2002, 03:01

No problem Hobbes. Thanks for redoing it

I can't even edit a map in SMAC.

shadowlord3 · August 21, 2002, 07:30

No problem H0bbes, I understand and thanks again for your help.

SL3

FlameFlash · August 21, 2002, 09:42

Many thanks for the redo, Hobbes... we're just glad to have somebody willing to set it up for us

Turn received... will play after work.

Uni started today, so there is a chance for delays until I get my time reorganized... not large delays, but thought I'd alert you guys.

shadowlord3 · August 21, 2002, 23:10

2101 to SMH.

smhfan86 · August 22, 2002, 00:11

02 to flame

FlameFlash · August 22, 2002, 09:11

turn received... will play after work.

shadowlord3 · August 23, 2002, 00:06

2102 to SMH.

smhfan86 · August 23, 2002, 01:13

03 to flame

FlameFlash · August 23, 2002, 09:27

turn received... will hopefully play after work. (going out of town, don't know if I'll have the chance prior to leaving... if I don't, it'll go out Sunday.)

Sorry for the possible delay.

smhfan86 · August 26, 2002, 14:42

04 to flame

FlameFlash · August 26, 2002, 17:36

turn received... will play when I get home...

Yes, in one of those rare instances... I'm stranded at Uni!

shadowlord3 · August 27, 2002, 10:14

2104 to SMH.

smhfan86 · August 27, 2002, 16:25

05 to flame

FlameFlash · August 28, 2002, 09:30

turn played last night and sent.

smhfan86 · August 28, 2002, 19:39

06 to flame.

another bug to report.

with one of my factions, it only costs 24 ecs to switch SE choices, but the other it costs 40 ecs.

what about you guys?

FlameFlash · August 28, 2002, 19:49

is that really a bug? I thought changing at different times caused different prices...

turn received... will play shortly.

smhfan86 · August 28, 2002, 20:13

it's a bug.

one switch will cost either, 24, 32, or 40 ecs, depending on the difficulty level.

switching more than one thing in one turn, costs even more.

FlameFlash · August 28, 2002, 20:23

*shrugs* If it's a bug for all three of us then I'd say not worry about it... we've restarted so much already... unless it'll be a real big deal later game.

shadowlord3 · August 28, 2002, 21:28

2106 to SMH.

If it is the same for all than lets stay with it. If not, I dont care if we keep playing or restart.

FlameFlash · August 28, 2002, 21:31

I'll try to remember to check next time it comes to me.

smhfan86 · August 28, 2002, 21:31

that's the thing, we don't know if it's the same for all three of us. if someone's only paying 24 ecs per SE switch for both factions, while the others are paying 40 ecs for one or both, then that's a pretty big advantage. that's why i asked what you two had.

also, chances are, it would also affect the research rate, i.e. those paying 40 ecs would have a much slower research rate than those paying only 24 ecs.

if we all have it the same, i.e. one faction at 24 ecs, and the other at 40, then i have no problem with continuing.

shadowlord3 · August 28, 2002, 21:38

I forgot to check but didnt think I had any techs that would switch my social. I will check next turn.

smhfan86 · August 29, 2002, 00:00

07 to flame

just double-checked, and yes, it's still 24 ecs for one faction, and 40 ecs, for the other, and i was right about the tech research cost as well. the the faction that costs 40 ecs for an SE switch, has a much higher tech research cost in the F2 screen, and remember, both my factions have +2research.

FlameFlash · August 29, 2002, 08:59

ugh... that explains my research then too... though we can easily work down the research, I would think, just with some more energy, etc.

Though probably not that much...

Was tech stag turned on?

smhfan86 · August 29, 2002, 19:18

i don't think tech stag is on.

normally, i play transcend, so the faction that's not, is researching faster than normal for me.

however, i'd still like to know how it costs for each of you to make 1 SE switch, on both factions.

FlameFlash · August 30, 2002, 00:46

turn sent...

I'll try and remember to take a look at SE switches the next time I get the turn. Could you try to also remind me when you send me the turn?

shadowlord3 · August 30, 2002, 09:25

2107 to SMH.
I checked and do not have any SE switches available to check the credit rate. However my tech rates are a little different. 1 faction needs 30 and the other needs 33 for tech cost. It should be the same because both have the same number techs and bonuses for research. I say lets just play as is. This is not a tournament, I'm playing for fun and don’t care if someone has an advantage.