August 20, 2002, 08:59
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King
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Someone Please Help. FW Installation Troubles.
Greetings,
I am having great difficulty here, and I hope someone can help me. I've been trying to play Captain Nemo's Second Front properly in FW for a great while.
A long long tima ago I bought FW off eBay for $4 US.
Little did I know, you need the original CivII to apply the FW to, as it is an add on rather than a stand alone type thing. So I put it away and didnt touch it.
Then I found CivII on sale for $10, so I immediatly bought it. I have installed that no problem, but when I try to install my FW, I get some strange error, and the installation aborts.
Perhaps I got sold a bunk copy of FW, but I don't know. It was shrink wrapped and looked good to me.
I cannot take a screenie of the error because the pc locks up untill you close the error window. It happens when I click ok when the game points to the default CivII installation directory. The error itself refers to 'Inist30' whatever that is.
Is their something I can do? Is their anything any of you can do? 
I shall post this here to reveal that I actually have the cd...
If anyone can offer an idea, it would be much appriciated. 
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August 20, 2002, 09:40
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I can't really offer much in the way of suggestions, except to try downloading the FW update from the web (from CivFanatics I think) and installing from that into the directory you installed Civ 2.42 in. That worked for me. Plus, I would say (though some might contradict me) that there's nothing unethical in downloading the update if you already paid for it. 
Also, I am running in Win98 - what are you using?
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August 20, 2002, 09:45
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okay, I'll try that. And report back.
I'm with 98SE.
-FMK.
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August 20, 2002, 09:49
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King
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Okay well there is no FW patch here at CivFanatics. I am going to DL the Classic CivII 2.42 patch though right?
Or does that turn my Classic CivII into MGE?
*Edit: just noticed they also have a civII--> gold patch. 
-FMK.
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August 20, 2002, 09:55
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Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
Okay well there is no FW patch here at CivFanatics. I am going to DL the Classic CivII 2.42 patch though right?
Or does that turn my Classic CivII into MGE?
*Edit: just noticed they also have a civII--> gold patch.
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Damn. I know there's a patch somewhere. The 2.42 patch is a good thing to have, but all it does is update to 2.42. You won't be in FW or MGE after that.
The Gold patch should put you in MGE. Someone with a better memory than me will hopefully post on where to find FW patch.
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August 20, 2002, 09:59
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King
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OK. Look for Cedrics patches. That will take you to both a FW and MGE patch.
Apologies to Apolyton gods for the breaches of etiquette I'm committing
edit: look on CivFanatics
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Last edited by Six Thousand Year Old Man; August 20, 2002 at 10:05.
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August 20, 2002, 10:00
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King
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I can't seem to find the patch for FW at Apolyton either.
I assume installing FW is going to create extra directories and such, so I wouldn't even have those to extract the FW Update zip into. 
-FMK.
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August 20, 2002, 10:04
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King
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What I did was install 2.42 (Civ2 basic off the CD) 3 times, and then installed MGE into one of those installs and FW into the another. Voila, 3 versions, to go with my ToT and the scenarios... 
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August 20, 2002, 10:10
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King
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wow, so then there must be a CivII-->FW patch somewhere?
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August 20, 2002, 10:16
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King
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Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
wow, so then there must be a CivII-->FW patch somewhere?
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Scroll up to my previous message. Look on CivFan>Downloads. At the top of the page is a link to 'Cedrics patches'. Look on that page.
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August 20, 2002, 10:30
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Ahhh, downloading the bugger now. Hopefully this does it. 
-FMK.
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August 20, 2002, 18:27
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From what I've heard the installer in FW can cause problems with other programs in Windows causing the error you are describing. A fix is to Ctrl+Alt+Del and close all programs except explorer and systray and then install. Usually this is enough to get it to install or like the others said you can use my patch but that won't install any of the scenarios.
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August 21, 2002, 20:11
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Bah, I got all the scenarios I need in other places.
I did end up going with the patch, and yup, worked like a charm! Thanks to the both of you.
You see, the MGE version of this scenario (in which you play as 2 civs) can only be played as a hotseat game. This means you aren't seeing enemy moves, which makes the German armoured counterattacks upon the beachheads awefully lethal. With the FW version, it plas as any other game would, with a full view of my boys getting slaughtered.
Thanks again.
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August 21, 2002, 22:56
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I've tried a couple of times to download the MGE update thingy from CFC, but it never works... I download it into the same directory as Civ2, and then open Civ2, and it says "Civ 2 Multiplayer Gold" along the top and on the menus, but when I click on any of the new options (like "multiplayer"), it just takes me to something old like the Hall Of Fame...
What's up with that?
Am I downloading the wrong file? Am I doing it wrong? Anything?
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August 21, 2002, 23:55
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Chieftain
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cinch, I think it's most likely a problem with either the labels.txt or the menu.txt . Also could be from using the older version of the patch from CFC instead of the newer version from my homepage, http://hometown.aol.com/cedricgreene/
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August 22, 2002, 20:25
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Warlord
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Thanks, Cedric! It seems to have worked now... I get the multiplayer menus and such...
A question, though: Were there any other big changes on the menu screen? Such as: more scenarios, or map options, or somesuch? Just curious, because I have nothing like that (i.e. stilly only rome and wwii, scenario-wise), but I thought I had heard that there were such things as gigamaps in MGE...
I'm probably just confused, but if you could humour me, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks again!
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August 22, 2002, 23:21
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Chieftain
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MGE did come with many scenarios on the disk, unfortunatly most of them are copyrighted by Microprose/Hasbro/Infogrames and would not be legal for me to distribute I believe. Anyway besides the legality the scenarios files are quite big (counting the .wav files) and would have made the patch massive. As for Giga maps you should be able to find them downloadable on this site as well as CFC.
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August 23, 2002, 03:50
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Warlord
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did the errors/crash was when u install FW addon ?
close all residents programs (CTRL+ALT+DEL) except explorer.exe then retry. it should works like that
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