An alliance with England. - Page 2

Panag · August 26, 2002, 18:24

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Originally posted by Shiber
I doubt it we can take Berlin when most of our forces are still in France.
And don't forget: Berlin is a capital, AND it's a city (8 population) which gives the units defending it a 100% defensive bonus! A fortified spearman inside Berlin has 4.5 defense.

No, there's absolutely no way we can take Berlin in this war.

hi ,

well it could be done , we need to remove units , starve them a bit , .... it shall work if we focus on it , ...

but that is not the main goal now , .....

lets see what alse we take from them that is more intresting , ....

have a nice day

adaMada · August 26, 2002, 18:26

Just to momentarially jump back onto topic, I agree that there should be no alience at least until we see what the first few turns of war brings. Also, this decision would be in the hands of the Foreign Ministry, and Togas just posted a press release in our office thread saying that he does not plan on signing a military allience at this time as well.

-- adaMada

Shiber · August 26, 2002, 18:37

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Fully agree, Hamburg and sign the Peace Treaty while we're still putting out the fire.............

In other words, get Hamburg and sign a peace treaty immediately before the German war machine gears up!

rendelnep · August 26, 2002, 20:47

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Children!!!!!

Robber Baron · August 26, 2002, 21:23

Yer right, rendelnep. The children....
I'm thinking German children might be useful as houseslaves, for dusting and setting the table and such. And we could use the Persian wee ones as banana peelers.

Aro · August 26, 2002, 21:23

How much money have the French now? I mean, could they bribe another civ, like Greeks or English, against us?

Shiber · August 27, 2002, 01:24

The French are probably broke by now. I think they offered all their money and a lot of gpt to Persia and Germany.
I'm not worried that French will drag more allies into this war. I'm worried that Persia and Germany will.

Inverse Icarus · August 27, 2002, 11:10

i dont want to fight hoplites without knights, flat out.

but i'll fight whomever you want me to whenever you want me to. tis my job.

Panag · August 27, 2002, 15:55

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Originally posted by UberKruX
i dont want to fight hoplites without knights, flat out.

but i'll fight whomever you want me to whenever you want me to. tis my job.

hi ,

it could be done without , .... but one would have to be nuts in order to do so , ....

indeed we should wait a bit and get out nation together again before we go after anyone again , ...

so that Uber can use more advanced armies , ....

and they should at least all be vets , ..;

have a nice day

Proserpine · August 28, 2002, 13:06

I think Eng. might get creamed in its war with Greece.

The Stats report shows the English have no money (and they missed out on a wonder). The war is in their territory. How much help will the Aztecs give them?

Even before the current situation developed, I thought we shouldn't take on Greece (leave it till the middle ages, when we have Knights). Now, we would have a 4-front(!) war, not a good idea.

IF we beat France, Germany and Persia quickly AND it seems like England will be badly beaten we should consider helping them out, however, otherwise Greece may become unstoppable. But we couldn't get too committed, b'cos Germany and Persia are likely to be itching for revenge if we give them any chance.

GhengisFarb™ · August 28, 2002, 14:13

I like panag's philosophy on advancing our military technology.

Torkkeli · August 29, 2002, 01:45

No need to ally with anyone, we will manage on our own!

Shiber · August 29, 2002, 05:15

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Originally posted by GhengisFarb
I like panag's philosophy on advancing our military technology.

What is it?

MrWhereItsAt · August 29, 2002, 06:07

A new development:

Germany and Greece have signed an alliance against the Aztecs. This is cause for concern....

Shiber · August 29, 2002, 06:31

Planning ahead in the political arena is becoming impossible!!

At least this would have one positive outcome: Germany will be more prune to sign a peace treaty with us.

Robber Baron · August 29, 2002, 08:43

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Originally posted by Shiber
At least this would have one positive outcome: Germany will be more prune to sign a peace treaty with us.

More PRONE to make peace.
Or more easily PRUNED. Intriguing. Maybe we should be taking advantage of the fact that German will be so extended, and mount a serious invasion: take a few cities, and cut Bis down to size. This is always a dangerous neighbor, in my experience: liable to pile on and declare war against the player whenever he goes to war with another civ. In other words, a civ that will undertaking short, limited wars difficult to pull off. Sooner or later we know we're going to have to take them on. Maybe sooner is better than later.

Shiber · August 29, 2002, 09:03

Yeah, I meant prone.

It's just that, uh... well, somebody switched the U with O un my keybuard su I keep switching the twu letters. I hupe I find whuever did that tu my preciuos cumpoter.

Robber Baron · August 29, 2002, 09:41

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Originally posted by Robber Baron
... In other words, a civ that will undertaking short, limited wars difficult to pull off. ...

I should have typed, "a civ that will MAKE undertaking short, limited wars difficult to pull off CLEANLY"

DAVOUT · August 29, 2002, 10:49

The next question is : Will all this induces the Greeks to declare war on us, as a side effect of their allaince with the Germans?

As I have not yet understood the reason why they make war to England, whereas I understand perfectly well that they want to check the advance of the Aztecs in the Ivory Coast, I believe that they will soon make peace with the Brits.

As far as the Germans are concerned, we have already analysed that the Aztecs are for them a logical prey : they can cut off them from the rest of the continent in gaining access to two oceans.

All this could end in two separate wars : Germano-Aztec and Helleno-Apolynian.