August 27, 2002, 15:11
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Does he ever actually get to the point?
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August 27, 2002, 15:13
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Not really, it's a Greek thing.
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August 27, 2002, 15:19
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the moment u find yourself in a real war you'll surrender so fast you'll make the french look like badasses.
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American Revolution
War of 1812
Civil War
World War 2
Korea...
The only war we lose was Vietnam and we stuck that out for 12 odd years.
Oh, right, I forgot it was paiktis that made the claim. Nevermind  .
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August 27, 2002, 15:19
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Have to wonder about a culture that reached it's zenith 2000 years ago and then sputtered out.
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August 27, 2002, 15:35
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The only reason we lost Nam was becuase everybody back home stopped supporting it.
That, and you had evil superstar women (okay, just one) of the time going over there and entertaining the northern region and basically trying to lower the moral of our guys...
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August 27, 2002, 15:45
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Kill the poor - Dead Kennedys
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August 27, 2002, 16:19
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If the USA invaded France they would put up afight I think. The french fight quite well against people they don't like.
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*cough*Deutschland*cough*
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August 27, 2002, 16:20
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let's see, all the Mars probes, etc. - the Russians had an early lead, but that lead was erased and eclipsed pretty quickly
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 Another one of mr. Floyd's well thought out replies... He is right, the US has the lead in Mars probes. Well, in failed probes at least
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August 27, 2002, 16:21
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the moment u find yourself in a real war you'll surrender so fast you'll make the french look like badasses.
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American Revolution
War of 1812
Civil War
World War 2
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The only war we lose was Vietnam and we stuck that out for 12 odd years.
Oh, right, I forgot it was paiktis that made the claim. Nevermind .
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You forgot the Mexican war and the Spanish-american war. Not to mention the Texan revolution.
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August 27, 2002, 16:22
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Um... Hueij... the US has had a few successful Mars probes. Remember that trip a few years ago where you had the little skateboard looking machine going around?
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August 27, 2002, 16:35
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August 27, 2002, 16:39
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I wouldn't say that, Oerdin. The Ruskies make damn fine astronauts. And even better cosmonauts.
If only they could find a way to put up billboards in space, they could pay for everything.
Personally, I wish we could fix the problems on our own planet before we trash another, but hey.
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August 27, 2002, 17:12
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So frenchies are wussies.. that's not a new one and we all know it's true. Americans now engage from the air which could be interpreted as wussy stuff but it's not the same as the frenchies.. all the others were invaded by Germany, but they got their asses kicked in the end.. so a safe resolution is.. we are the only braves left
SUOMI suomi suomi!
We will be the first in Mars for sure, even if we don't have the money for it.. well we can make a hell of a parade for that.
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August 27, 2002, 17:16
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BEsides.. since Americans and NASA is using some foreign components and parts in satellites etc.. some our technology too and I bet stuff from many other countries too.. well then we should just check the first part that penetrates Mars's atmosphere (or place correct word here) in that rotating thing and see who's components enter first! Haha! I bet it's ours..
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August 27, 2002, 17:20
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hi ,
 , given that the French have the most modern army in europe , and the second best payed one , ...
even the germans had some problems in 1940 , ...
they have more experience with overseas departments , .....
they dont like foreigners , ...
nope , is shall be a long and costly war , ....
have a nice day 
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August 27, 2002, 17:27
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Americans now engage from the air which could be interpreted as wussy stuff but it's not the same as the frenchies..
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In 1991 the U.S. Army engauged the Iraqis in the largest Tank battle since WW2. The end result was the Iraqis lost something like 300 tanks while the U.S. didn't lose a single one.
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August 27, 2002, 17:28
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even the germans had some problems in 1940 , ...
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Yeah, their tanks weren't fast enough to reach many of the french before they gave up. 
And let us not forget their incredible showing during operation torh, although in that case it could be said they wanted the US to win. But secretly, they just wanted to surrender. 
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August 27, 2002, 17:31
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Oerdin, Aagh you know what I mean! And I didn't mean that it would be necessarily a bad thing.
Panag, French have the most modern technology in Europe? I don't know.. could be. But it's not the same thing as best . They propably have the best technology in digging deep bunkers too, and the most flashy 'surrender' button.
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August 27, 2002, 19:34
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The French used outated tactics and were in no way prepared for the Germans style of warfare. It's not the French Army really sucked, so much as Germany just possessed a superior idea of how to wage warfare and had the tools to carry that out, to the eventual embarrasment of the French Army and BEF.
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August 27, 2002, 19:49
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Now, would all of you who oppose attacking France change your tune if you could have as many French women as you could support as concubines? The guys in the army get first choice.
Ad victorem, spoila!
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August 27, 2002, 19:49
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Yeah, well, when was the Last time the French conducted a well run war?
Napoleon doesn't count, he was Corsican.
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August 27, 2002, 19:51
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Yeah, well, when was the Last time the French conducted a well run war?
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The surrenders are always well organized.
Or do you mean the last time they won a war by themselves?
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August 27, 2002, 19:53
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The surrenders are always well organized.
Or do you mean the last time they won a war by themselves?
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Hell, they didn't even fight WW1 well. The BEF saved their asses.
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And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worth while, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: "I served in the United States Navy!"
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August 27, 2002, 22:32
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
American Revolution
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The only war we lose was Vietnam and we stuck that out for 12 odd years.
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You can also add the Mexican-American war (1846-1848) where the U.S. kicked the living sh*t out of Mexico and seized half of its territory. The Spanish-American War (1898) where the U.S. single handedly siezed all of Spain's over seas possessions and sunk two Spainish fleets in six months. We were also in WW1 late but U.S. man power and material proved decisive in the allied victory.
That doesn't count more then three dozen invasions and "interventions" in Latin America, mini wars like the 1804 invasion of Libya, or various neo-colonial involvements in places like China, several pacific islands (including hawaii), and what not.
Also Eisenhower first sent U.S. advisers to Vietnam in 1958 and the last U.S. combat troops left in 1974; That would be 16 years the U.S. stuck it out. South Vietnam fell in 1976 two years after the U.S. left. Also the U.S. won every single battle it ever fought against the North Vietnamese Army.
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August 28, 2002, 06:05
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As Hannibal. Not defeated until someone invades him in his
homeland.
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August 28, 2002, 07:01
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Now, would all of you who oppose attacking France change your tune if you could have as many French women as you could support as concubines? The guys in the army get first choice.
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You've obviously never been to France, or you would realize what a weak draw the women would be. If my experience is any indication, there are probably only about 200 good looking women in France, and they would all be pretty famous and reserved for the president, some of the cabinet officers, some of the more important members of congress and of course the supreme court. Any stragglers would be snapped up by officers very quickly, which would leave the common soldier very slim pickings indeed. Better to dodge the draft and take a crack at all those lonely American women.
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August 28, 2002, 08:31
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How does NATO deal with a situation with member countries going to war with each other
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August 28, 2002, 08:34
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Why would they move to protect France?
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August 28, 2002, 08:36
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Did France surrender yet?
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August 28, 2002, 08:37
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IIRC France are in the political arm of NATO but not the military command bit
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