Most idiotic assertion of conservatives.

MrFun · August 29, 2002, 20:21

Oh well, let both sides of the story have fun in the true spirit of Apolyton.

David Floyd · August 29, 2002, 20:29

Actually the most idiotic argument of conservatives is that "It's not OK when the government interferes with people for left-wing reasons, but it's perfectly OK when they interfere for right wing purposes."

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 20:37

"Ronald Reagan was a great president"

Asher · August 29, 2002, 20:51

Just how are we defining conservatives here, as general right wingers or right wing authoritarian types?

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 20:57

The other poll didn't differentiate left-wingers, so why should this one?

Asher · August 29, 2002, 20:59

I haven't seen the other poll, left wingers bore me to tears.

Goingonit · August 29, 2002, 21:01

Ah, being dead centre is a truly woderful thing.

Asher · August 29, 2002, 21:03

Center in Canada = left wing.

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 21:04

Wait, MrFun, aren't you supposedly a moderate?

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 21:04

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Originally posted by Asher
Center in Canada = left wing.

No, no, no. Center in U.S. = right wing

Asher · August 29, 2002, 21:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
No, no, no. Center in U.S. = right wing

Nah, there are more people in the US than Canada, so Center in Canada = left wing.

I mean, the "Liberals" in Canada have been downright very left wing in their past, what with driving American businesses out of the country and heavily subsidizing Canadian industries and refusing to allow anyone to pay for medical treatment, to the very high and very progressive income taxes, to the equalization payments which consistently funnel money out of two provinces into coffers in all of the other provinces.

Goingonit · August 29, 2002, 21:12

*groans*
I give up. I'm sure I'm a diehard reactionary in the pacific island of Kiribati.

Shi Huangdi · August 29, 2002, 21:14

Copycat Threads

You lefties need to get a little more original

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 21:22

From the left-bashing thread's first post:

Quote:

A previous poll has got me thinking.

So conservatives aren't that original, either.

Asher · August 29, 2002, 21:23

Authoritarian conservatives have never been that original, they're sheep. Usually to religion or the status quo.

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 21:25

Give me an example of non-authoritarian conservative in U.S. politics.

Asher · August 29, 2002, 21:26

Libertarian party.

The Mad Monk · August 29, 2002, 21:30

Rush Limbaugh.

Boris Godunov · August 29, 2002, 21:35

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Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Rush Limbaugh.

I said "Non-authoritarian," not "non-authoritative."

Dis · August 29, 2002, 21:43

don't you guys ever tire of anti-conservative threads?

Giancarlo · August 29, 2002, 22:00

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Originally posted by MrFun
Oh well, let both sides of the story have fun in the true spirit of Apolyton.

Troll: 0.0001 out of 10. Better luck next time.

At least we right-wingers are not as braindead as the left.

David Floyd · August 29, 2002, 22:08

While we're on the subject of braindead, both sides are pretty much equal in terms of brainwave activity. Neither one can realize that both sides advocate pretty much the same huge amount of power for the government over the individual, and just quibble over whether the power is used for left or right wing policies.

They're a bunch of hypocrites really, because it's OK when they do it, but not when the other guy does.

Giancarlo · August 29, 2002, 22:10

David, give me a break... if you really think that way you are an anarchist!

The Mad Monk · August 29, 2002, 22:26

Boris, in what way is Rush 'authoritarian'?

David Floyd · August 29, 2002, 22:46

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David, give me a break... if you really think that way you are an anarchist!

How so?

MrFun · August 29, 2002, 22:57

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Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Wait, MrFun, aren't you supposedly a moderate?

If redjon would have updated that political chart he had provided for us, you would see that I am a moderate LEFTIE.

And as for Fez, and the other whining conservatives, sorry to have rained down on your liberal-bashing parade.

As for originality -- you guys are right -- this troll of mine is as original as the liberal-bashing troll.

Asher · August 29, 2002, 22:58

There's nothing wrong with most Liberals, in fact they've got a great sense of social values, it's just that they don't know what they're doing economically.

MrFun · August 29, 2002, 23:05

When I try to vote on my own poll, it comes up as an invalid action!

Promethus · August 29, 2002, 23:43

Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right. Here I am stuck in the middle again.

Love Me, I'm a Liberal
By Phil Ochs

I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
Of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
As long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crane?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New Republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democtratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Notes:
Sonny Ochs says: "Lerner & Golden were both columnists with left-leaning tendencies. Harry Golden, a humorist, wrote some marvelous books and short stories. One I recall is his plan for integration in schools in the south (this was back when). Since the Southerners didn't mind blacks standing next to whites when making purchases in stores, he proposed that they take out all the chairs in the schools and let the students stand to learn. He called this "vertical integration."

"Les Crane had a talk show in the south. (Nothing virulent like the current ones!)"

Jello Biafra and Mojo Nixon did a cover of this song with some updated lyrics (on their album "Prairie Home Invasion." Mojo Nixon sang this updated version solo on Comedy Central during their 1996 State of the Union show.

Chords supplied by Guy Matz and corrected by James Barnett.

Jan Hauenstein says ``Phil Ochs didn´t write the melody which comes from an old Irish folk song, "Rosin the Bow". That melody also found a new home in several American folk songs before Phil put it to good use. The melody for the "chorus-line" (Love me, love me, love me, I´m a liberal) is probably original Ochs, though.''

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Nubclear · August 30, 2002, 00:12

Quote:

At least we right-wingers are not as braindead as the left.

Anway....#2.