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Old April 5, 2003, 06:28   #211
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WOW Whu did bump the thread?
I was unrestricted again. I hope it will last for week at least.
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I was going to try to get a conversation started up about whether the previous posters still felt that Activision was more dedicated to the online community than Firaxis.

I guess from now I will just ask outright from the start instead of trying first spark interest and then steer the conversation......

I never realized there were so many uptight people on this site.
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Old April 6, 2003, 13:33   #213
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Can bumping really annoy people so bad?

Oh, we all bump each time we post, as long as the thread isn't topped. *bump*
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Ming-friendly method of bumping : delete your last post in the thread and post it again.
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Old April 6, 2003, 15:05   #216
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Yeah... only mods and admin can do that
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Then why is there that delete option when you go to edit your post?

Maybe only the mods and admins should see it, eh?
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Yes. I did not try to delete message via edit. Our admins appear to be to wise
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We don't like people to be able to post, then delete the evidence Granted, you can edit your post, but at least we will see the notation that it was edited

Oh, and muxec, did I close your thread fast enough for you
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i see it now, ming is not just one person but a collection of people. That is how he is so fast.
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i see it now, ming is not just one person but a collection of people. That is how he is so fast.
9 heads of ming.....
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We don't like people to be able to post, then delete the evidence Granted, you can edit your post, but at least we will see the notation that it was edited
Unless it was edited before anyone else got to see the message.









But then, if no one else saw it...
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i see it now, ming is not just one person but a collection of people. That is how he is so fast.
Hehe he does seem pretty fast most of the time. Maybe we should start referring to him as the Ming collective........perhaps that explains his post count.......he assimilated them from mods who mysteriously disappeared.
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Yeah. but collective? I would say dynasty... Ming was indeed a powerful Chinese dynasty.
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What was the thread that Amesjustin bumped?
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Old April 7, 2003, 22:53   #226
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Good Catch Ras...

The DL has now been banned, and the user restricted.

Now for the fun part... Who did you think it was
This is probably old news but my guess is Reinhard-Baer is a d/l of Galvatron

Do I get a prize Ming?
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Old April 8, 2003, 05:17   #227
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You would if I hadn't already guessed it in the "Dino-Spam Alert" thread.
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Old April 10, 2003, 02:48   #228
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Considering my poltically charged posts in the OTF I have never been banned.

Considering my 20+ post count per day I have never gotten a PCR.

But I've been close to being banned and been in threads where people have gotten PCRs so I've been hanging on the edge

Let's see how long my stays afloat...



(nah, I'm a softy inside)

plus, people who troll or spam or do stuff to provoke the moderators are really silly, I mean, what do you gain from provoking people you don't know hiding behind anonymity? Just a waste of time if you ask me. Just makes you look like a childish jerk.

The reverse is true. Some moderators take their job too seriously as if supreme power in these forums equated to supreme power in RL too. But I will admit, other sites are MUCH WORSE.

(got a warning at CFC for comparing Sharon to Hitler )
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We don't like people to be able to post, then delete the evidence Granted, you can edit your post, but at least we will see the notation that it was edited

Oh, and muxec, did I close your thread fast enough for you
Actually, if you are quick enough you can edit the post before mySQL registers it and it isn't shown in the post that it was edited.

Same with thread titles.
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Old April 10, 2003, 03:21   #230
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That's true... that's why we sometimes like to wait... so the evidence is clear
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So I presume the database connectivity code has a cleanup function... A hardcoded timer might delete all orphans, and update all edits, etc. It's a usual way (not the best, though) to manage things in message systems, and it might be the part that causes the delay. I am currently working on such a message system myself, and that's the reason why I started the thread about hacking the polling system. (in which was of course moderated) Not that I wanted to hack Apolyton, I just wanted to discuss security issues.

I started a similar discussion on a newspaper internet forum, and it was of course moderated when some badguy hacker replied. I discussed security issues with the badguy, and after some days I got an angry mail from the manager. I explained my harmless intentions to him, and told him the importance of tapping the badguys' knowledge... Things got settled, he was ok, and he didn't punish me.
So I guess it's kinda taboo. Hehe...
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Old April 10, 2003, 16:41   #232
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Is that all related to the Area 19 and Area 25 things? Did someone hack Poly to make "hidden" forums? vBulletin ain't that good then...
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Old April 10, 2003, 16:45   #233
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Yeah, Area19 is the hidden Apolyton forum, in which not even the owners can locate. Area25 is basically the same, but with the code transparency v1.25 patch... It's the ultimate selfmodifying vBulletin, kinda living it's own life within Apolyton. Wanna join us there?
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Old April 10, 2003, 17:06   #234
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Not quite true... the so called "hidden forums" were just forums that used to exist, but the Owners have taken off the main menu because they were no longer used. However, people could still access them with direct addresses... They were not "hacked" or created by outsiders... One could say that they just weren't closed properly. Now they are
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Hehe, ok I was just kidding... : No hack here!
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i was moderated when i made "Who is the biggest jackass of Apolyton" Ming changed all the votes to me, but it was clear he was the biggest Jackass. Then when i posted Apolyton's sucks. Then when i posted a Anti-Un thread. And probaly this one too.
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Is that all related to the Area 19 and Area 25 things? Did someone hack Poly to make "hidden" forums? vBulletin ain't that good then...
vBulletin uses a MySQL back end, and forum creation and modification is through an entirely different set of scripts which regular users have no way of accessing.

You'd have to hack the MySQL database on the server.
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Actually, if you are quick enough you can edit the post before mySQL registers it and it isn't shown in the post that it was edited.

Same with thread titles.
That's an configuration function - you can set whether the "edited by" field appears at all, and a time delay from initial post before it appears. IIRC, it's set at 5 minutes (300 seconds).

You can also set whether an admin or mod's edit shows that they've edited it. That's set on.
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That's an configuration function - you can set whether the "edited by" field appears at all, and a time delay from initial post before it appears. IIRC, it's set at 5 minutes (300 seconds).

You can also set whether an admin or mod's edit shows that they've edited it. That's set on.
Hmm... I didn't know that, I though all posts had that "edited by" line after your 2nd edit. I had noticed that if I edited a post once, that line wouldn't show, but after all other edits it did....

that was one of Poly's greatest mysteries to me!
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