October 18, 2002, 17:09
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i myself always tech trade with everone in the beginning as soon as i am the first with new military technology ones the game is on its way i tend to withhold that but not that much in another game i know but i would speak out loud here i look out much more what i trade....but with SMAC not that mcu
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October 18, 2002, 22:18
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Re: tech trading... I say we should be willing to trade any tech except military ones or ones for SPs we're working on.
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October 19, 2002, 02:13
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I agree w/GeneralTacticus on this one.
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October 19, 2002, 05:04
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I'd agree too, with the addition that certain economic technology should be restricted. It may be inevitable that everyone will learn to use boreholes, but we should get a head start on exploiting them.
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October 19, 2002, 05:16
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Good point. Maybe we could add important SE techs to the list as well.
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October 19, 2002, 08:05
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well IF the empath Guild would like to build such a list for use in the game it would be easy you are an advice counsel arent you?
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October 19, 2002, 08:19
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I would give economic technologies like Boreholing to other factions. There's a big chance their society won't know how to use them anyway.
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October 19, 2002, 11:13
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i'd like to point out that we can technically already build boreholes (although they'd be useless)
should i set up a tech trading poll?
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October 19, 2002, 12:44
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yes please it hasnt be official but i can be for infogathering very usefull
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October 19, 2002, 16:57
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well IF the empath Guild would like to build such a list for use in the game it would be easy you are an advice counsel arent you?
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Er, what?
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October 19, 2002, 18:38
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IMPORTANT ANOUNCEMENT: WE HAVE LOCATED MORGAN
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October 19, 2002, 19:37
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October 19, 2002, 19:54
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We need to build a real military first, not just a police force and a few scouts.
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October 19, 2002, 21:25
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October 19, 2002, 21:57
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Good point. But, do we really want to go breaking the treaty we just signed?
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October 19, 2002, 22:00
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it wouldn't be breaking the treaty. we have nothing to lose! he'll either say
"is that a thread, GeneralTacticus? i suggest you pronounce vendetta and be done with it, for i am intimidated!"
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"By all means! We will gladly share with you our knowledge of $TECHNAME"
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October 19, 2002, 22:13
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But if he doesn't give in, the threat was counterproductive, as he'll merely be pissed off and we'll gain nothing.
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October 19, 2002, 22:17
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so? we don't lose anything either
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October 19, 2002, 22:27
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We lose the possibility of other negotations for a little while (he won't want to talk), and we also lose some of his goodwill.
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October 19, 2002, 22:29
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in my experience, the AI will normally give in in this situation.
but, you're the boss DoFA.
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October 19, 2002, 22:35
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We don't even know he has anything we want yet. I'm open to persuasion on this issue, but I can't continue this debate just now.
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October 19, 2002, 22:41
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we know he has something. if he was out of tech, he would have offered his world map instead of a tech. at the very least, we can get his maps
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October 20, 2002, 07:06
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I thought he cut us off after he gave us that last tech, so we couldn't tell?
Last edited by GeneralTacticus; October 20, 2002 at 07:12.
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October 20, 2002, 07:11
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yes he cut us off for me that is always a sign that he hasnt got anything...we havent got or visa versa
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October 20, 2002, 08:25
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hey, let a pro handle this
Morgan should be dealt with a friendly matter. Give him a few techs that will benefit him somewhat and trade for tech that will enhance us a great deal. AS soon as we get enough military power, we demonstrate our power to him and coerce him into giving us whatever the heck we want.
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October 20, 2002, 08:28
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Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
We need to build a real military first, not just a police force and a few scouts.
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TKG and I are thinking the same way, build a strong internal force first, THEN build a feasible antagonist attack force.
The police force will help keep our drones in line as well as our populace and the scouts will scan the horizons for new conquests...
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October 21, 2002, 03:10
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Do you not consider Drones to be part of the populace?
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October 21, 2002, 04:41
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I consider the Drones to be a dysfunctional part of the populace that need to be reeducated and rehabilitated so that they can be more productive citizens.
If the Drone's riot, then they are destabilizing the society and therefore are NOT part of the populace.
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October 21, 2002, 05:33
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Switch to Planned and ruin Morgan's economy.
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October 21, 2002, 05:41
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How would we ruin Morgan's? Why do want to?
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