Terraforming and Colonization's Agora - Page 2

Method · September 4, 2002, 15:25

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Originally posted by Maniac

I'm pissed off.

TKG, please remove that picture of our starting location. I would like to have at least *some* fun with the exploration part.

It is forbidden to play ahead. That includes having a look at the Map of Planet with the special purpose of searching for the best colonization sites.

ok. i just thought it was ok since vlad posted the same picture in another thread.

Maniac · September 4, 2002, 15:29

Hmm. In that case I'll go yell at him. Excuse me for a minute.

moomin · September 4, 2002, 16:33

I wanna ring the sea as first priority. Keep the bases close and avoid all those red tiles like the plague. Do not go for the ridge - it'll take a freakin' millenium to get there.

Oh, and East.

Maniac · September 4, 2002, 16:36

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Originally posted by moomin
Oh, and East.

That's ok for our next built colony pod. But thanks to DE we have a CP in the west. It would be a serious waste of time if we moved it back again.

moomin · September 4, 2002, 16:39

In that case, why this poll to begin with? The issue seems pretty much settled. It's not like we can afford that pod doing a continental tour, after all.

Was there ever a vote on that pod's destination?

Maniac · September 4, 2002, 16:42

No, though I suggested it. It still has to be decided where exactly we will found that second base. The most important contenders IMO are on that nutrient bonus, or one tile NW of that nutrient bonus. What do you prefer? My argumentation is a few post above.

DeathByTheSword · September 4, 2002, 16:42

moomin NO and thats the problem! and I agree with leaving the ridge for now to difficult

moomin · September 4, 2002, 16:50

I personally dislike setting down pods on specials if I can avoid it, knowing how much they will eventually contribute with if properly managed, but this early I think your reasoning is sound.

I say go for the bonus with this pod.

Pandemoniak · September 4, 2002, 17:36

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Originally posted by Maniac

I'm pissed off.

Pandemoniak, you're acting like a dictator. If you don't change your current ways, I might consider entering the next T&C elections after all. The way some Alpha Talents and Directors are running this democracy game is scandalous!

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Originally posted by DBTS PANDE just order constructing a second base without polling it! may i remind him that this kind of orders need to be polled for the location! (espaiselly so early in the game)

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Okay, guys calm down... I posted that without waiting for your discussions because I missed the first deadline for the first base location, so because I didnt want it to happen again, and since DE has specified any deadline, I posted it ASAP.

About the Poll, it is far too late, since the Commissioner took the initiative to move our CP to the North, but the next CP will be sent East.

I hope I wont have to do that again, so I'll check carefully for our commisionner deadlines.

To Maniac :
IIRC, the technology of a pod allows the base to produce 2,000 Megatons of Nutrients, 1,000 Megaton of Raw Minerals, and 2,000 MegaWatts of Energy, whatever the tile. We do benefit of special ressources, even with our low technology that restrict our harvesting. This means it is better to build a base on a rolling arid land, and send workers on richer tiles.
Despite that, your argument about the raw minerals that could be extracted is a strong one. I hope I'll have the time to make a poll with option 1:On the northern Nutrient Bonus. Option 2:NW of that nutrient.

Maniac · September 4, 2002, 17:46

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Originally posted by Pandemoniak
To Maniac :
IIRC, the technology of a pod allows the base to produce 2,000 Megatons of Nutrients, 1,000 Megaton of Raw Minerals, and 2,000 MegaWatts of Energy, whatever the tile. We do benefit of special ressources, even with our low technology that restrict our harvesting. This means it is better to build a base on a rolling arid land, and send workers on richer tiles.
Despite that, your argument about the raw minerals that could be extracted is a strong one. I hope I'll have the time to make a poll with option 1:On the northern Nutrient Bonus. Option 2:NW of that nutrient.

Unless my memory is hopelessly failing that would be 1000 Megawatts in a base tile, before taking any advantages like a river bonus or a nutrient resource into account, resulting in 4-1-1 or 2-1-2 as base tile. The 2-1-1 base production is by no means fix whatever the underlying tile.

DeathByTheSword · September 4, 2002, 17:47

you have to POLL the direction of the CP not listen to the people with the biggest voice in the thread! for the rest no problemo with what you all said

Pandemoniak · September 4, 2002, 17:59

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Originally posted by Maniac

Unless my memory is hopelessly failing that would be 1000 Megawatts in a base tile, before taking any advantages like a river bonus or a nutrient resource into account, resulting in 4-1-1 or 2-1-2 as base tile. The 2-1-1 base production is by no means fix whatever the underlying tile.

Sorry, I mistyped.

Method · September 4, 2002, 19:23

i thought nutrient production was unaltered by founding on a rainy or nutrient tile....

i'd rather not put the base on the nut tile, so later we can condense/farm/crawl it, producing more nuts...unless this idea is fundamentally flawled somehow

AdamTG02 · September 4, 2002, 19:37

I believe that base production is 2-1-1 without Recycling Tanks regardless, but is altered by any resource bonuses (so building on the Nutrient tile would give us 4-1-1 and 5-2-2 after Tanks).

My memory is not extemely clear, though.

Maniac · September 7, 2002, 07:41

It seems DE doesn't want to post a deadline for giving director orders.

Perhaps it's better to start a poll about the second base location then.

MrWhereItsAt · September 8, 2002, 02:33

Since DE plans to hold a chat between 10pm GMT on Wed and 6am GMT on Thurs, wouldn't it be prudent to say that we get our orders in before this? Say 8pm GMT on Wed?

Just my thoughts - DE is unlikely to be up at 6am his time on Thrusday, and if he is, I'm sure he won't be playing any turns then.