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Old September 5, 2002, 21:07   #1
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How many planets would we need if everyone on Earth lived like you?
For me it turns out that if all six billion of us lived like me, we'd need 4.9 Earths to feed, cloth, house, and transport all of us. Personally, I take up about 8.9 hectares (US average is 9.7, so I'm a little better than most of my countrymen--but not as good as I thought). "Worldwide, there exist 1.8 biologically productive global hectares per person."

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2.6 hectares, requiring 1.4 planets. I got major reduction in points due to my transportation situation and living in NYC.
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1.7 planets, and 3 hectors.

Edited to add that the average in Canada is 8.8 hectors.
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4.2 hectares SUCK IT
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I take up 4.8 ha (the average ecological footprint for China is 1.5 ha). If everyone lived like me we'd need 2.7 planets.
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4.2 hectares SUCK IT
...okay, no comment.
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This test is bullshit. I pretended to be a person from Malaysia who was vegan and lived an ABSOLUTELY GREEN life and it said we would need 1 planet!
I'm an environmentalist but even I have to say that this test is skewed.
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So the Communist turns out to be the biggest burden on the planet so far... oh, the irony!
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This test is bullshit. I pretended to be a person from Malaysia who was vegan and lived an ABSOLUTELY GREEN life and it said we would need 1 planet!
I'm an environmentalist but even I have to say that this test is skewed.
You expect to be able to live in the void of space because you live green?
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So the Communist turns out to be the biggest burden on the planet so far... oh, the irony!

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The test is full of it.... 6 hectares and 3.3 planets. I do use more resources than my average countrymen, who use 4.7 each.

The test is skewed. No way I use less resources than Chegitz.
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I did a re-calculation and my number over 7.6 ha. The problem is flying time. A trip from HK to Canada, and then back, can take more than 30 hours. If I flew more than 100 hours, the footprint jumps to more than 15 ha.
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Old September 5, 2002, 21:27   #13
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You expect to be able to live in the void of space because you live green?
I guess he was assuming that, since they gave you portions of planets beyond 1, they'd subdivide the first as well. But good point...
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Hmm, I filled in the thing twice with exactly the same answers, one for sweden and one ofr Los Angleles... Turned out that my footprint more than doubled just for moving... And my lifestyl is pretty much unchanged....

Biased test?Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aah...
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No Osweld
If I lived the way I polled, and EVERYONE did, then I'm sure we could support another few billion. Heck maybe more than that.
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i'd need 3.

Category global hectares

Food 2.2

Mobility 0.1

Shelter 1.6

Goods/Services 1.5

Total Footprint 5.4
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Old September 5, 2002, 21:31   #17
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monolith, I think Osweld is pointing out that the minimum you can get, no matter what, is 1 planet, since that's what we currently have to work with.

What was the hectare outcome for the Malaysian Green?
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No Osweld
If I lived the way I polled, and EVERYONE did, then I'm sure we could support another few billion. Heck maybe more than that.
The quiz is about how much larger the earth would have to be to support your life style globally. If everyone lived green, we could all easily fit on one planet and would not need to have any more space.
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Hmmm I can't remember...
Ah well I'm sure this whole ecology thing'll work out in the end.........
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Total Footprint 6.8
In comparison, the average ecological footprint in your country is 9.7 global hectares per person.

Worldwide, there exist 1.8 biologically productive global hectares per person.
I got pissed after taking this BS test. Bah!
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2.3 planets. Add Mars and the moon, and we can just about fit that many people.
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I rated 5.6 hectares which is only 60% of the U.S. average. I bike alot and I live in a city with excellent trolly service plus my car is a fuel efficient four cylinder.

It would take 3.1 earths for everyone to live like me. Fortunately, everyone doesn't live like me so I get to continue living the highlife.
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So the Communist turns out to be the biggest burden on the planet so far... oh, the irony!
I got nailed on the apartment. I have a big 'un (1326 sq ft.). Plus I live in the hot, humid South.


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If everyone lived like you, we would need 1.7 planets.

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Total Footprint 3.1


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Whomever made this quize....I oughta kick him/her in the groin for their stupidity. Once more:
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I agree. From a scientific stand point this test is designed to shock people and not to be accurate. The numbers are inflated. Plus it didn't take into account heating energy; I live in southern California and almost never use the heater or airconditioner (I love that ocean breeze ) so wouldn't an ice bound canuk consume more then the quiz let's on?
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2.3 planets. Add Mars and the moon, and we can just about fit that many people.
Yah, but by the time we get around to colonizing Mars and the Moon, we'll need a lot more planets than that. Then where do we go?
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Ah well I'm sure this whole ecology thing'll work out in the end.........
How? Did you hear something about Dubya and the fat one stepping down?


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