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View Poll Results: Is this acceptable to run on Apolyton?
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It has little to do with bananas, I dont care
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September 6, 2002, 08:30
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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it's you failing to accept an opinion...
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what opinion? the one based on the ignorance of the reference to the movie or of what the movie is about? 
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September 6, 2002, 08:34
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#122
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Prince
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Originally posted by MarkG
what opinion? the one based on the ignorance of the reference to the movie or of what the movie is about?
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Ignorance isn't the issue, it's the immediate reaction of the viewer to the banner. You don't get the opportunity to educate them before they see it...
Maybe a better option would've been a banner competition...
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September 6, 2002, 08:40
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Warlord
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Originally posted by Godraz
Hmm.. i allways tought that there was something between genious and bad taste you know like between black and white is grey.
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No, that is mainstream.
By the way, did you guys hear that Siemens was about to launch a range of gas ovens with the brand "Zyklon", but dumped the idea after protests from jews.
What were they thinking? 
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September 6, 2002, 08:52
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I say NAY...
Why don't you put a banner with a Turkish Sultan on Markos 
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September 6, 2002, 08:53
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i think some other sneaker company also had that brand name for their shoes.
now, siemens was just dumb about that. gas ovens? oy.
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September 6, 2002, 09:41
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Deity
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Interesting. 5 pages of responses yet only 25 votes.
MarkG, are you trying to test perceptions or increase sales?
There's a show-biz saying that goes, "Tragedy plus time equals comedy." I find it interesting that we can joke about Jim Jones/KoolAid and John Wayne Gacy, but light-hearted references to the Holocaust seem forever out of bounds.
As I stand firmly with freedom of expression, I would suggest that the subject banner is acceptable if the site owners think it is.
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September 6, 2002, 09:51
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King
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Since I know that's Charlie... I wound't mind it.
If you really want to make it funny, put a banana in his hand. 
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September 6, 2002, 10:00
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#128
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Originally posted by MarkG
it's not someone dressed up as hitler, it's someone ridiculling hitler
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Very few of these culturally challenged posters have ever seen "The Great Dictator"; I have not seen a colorized version, but maybe that still was colorized separatly
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September 6, 2002, 10:08
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Prince
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My opinion is no. Whole heartedly no.
The banner isn't in a context of parody. It's in a context of advertising. Chaplin had a political agenda for that film. You don't.
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September 6, 2002, 10:24
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King
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I still think the UBL eating dog was better. 
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September 6, 2002, 10:55
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Settler
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defibtely run it. it's very funny! and i'd advice not to even put the warning that is not hitler. it's so obvious it's chaplin, but some people might not know it.
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September 6, 2002, 11:20
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Well, Ive seen the movie, and like it. But when so many people have problems with the banner, it would probably wiser not to use it...
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September 6, 2002, 11:24
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i didnt read the thread. just expresses my opinion. so whatever the masses want its ok
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September 6, 2002, 12:28
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Apolyton CS Co-Founder
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The banner isn't in a context of parody. It's in a context of advertising. Chaplin had a political agenda for that film. You don't.
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i'm using chaplin's parody of nazism to make an analogous statement about today's advertising, while at the same time of course promoting our store
if in the past we had oppressive goverments telling people what to do, today we have the companies doing the same thing through mass media and advertising 
the idea of the banner is really simple....
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September 6, 2002, 12:30
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Deity
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I voted banana, because I don't see myself buying anything from the store, regardless of this, or any other, banner.
-Arrian
ps Speaking of Mel Brooks (several pages ago), every time I see History of the World, Part I I can't help but giggle (yes, giggle) uncontrolably at the end, during the "previews" of Part II, when they show "Hitler... on ice!" followed by "Jeeeeeeeewwwwwwsssss in Space!" Mel Brooks kills me.
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September 6, 2002, 12:31
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Should I start talking about Poly as a Greek-Canadian website for liberals?
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September 6, 2002, 12:32
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MarkG, are you trying to test perceptions or increase sales?
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if you would read the first thread i made yesterday, you would realise that it's the first
but i do find the redish color of it to be pretty attracting, and i'd prefer to have chaplin on a banner than bush
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September 6, 2002, 12:36
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i won't mind, but I know many will
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September 6, 2002, 12:52
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I find this banner hilarious, but I advise against running it. Although Apolyton is community, it's not tight-knit enough for everyone to appreciate the humour fully. 
P.S. Use a parody of Stalin instead. I don't really care that he killed oodles of my relatives or that the fact that there are only 3 million Latvians on our planet is because of him; people won't have the same kneejerk reaction to that bastard.
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September 6, 2002, 13:02
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Prince
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I see. Understood. I still don't like the banner.
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September 6, 2002, 19:39
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The only funny part of the add was the warning.
I don't care, actually, either way.
All I have to say is:
HAIL TO THE KING BABY!!!!
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September 6, 2002, 19:43
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Oh, one other thing, why in hell wasn't this thread in the A/C forum?
At least we'd get a +1 out of it.
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"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There's a large out of focus monster roaming the countryside. Look out, he's fuzzy, let's get out of here."
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September 6, 2002, 19:47
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Prince
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I don't really care, but I thought I'd post to point out that the quote in MarkG's signature is exactly what led to my static title of Prince.
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September 6, 2002, 19:52
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Well, I'll be happy at King, if I can find a good pic of Ash.
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"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There's a large out of focus monster roaming the countryside. Look out, he's fuzzy, let's get out of here."
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September 6, 2002, 20:06
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I saw the movie. I think it's a bad idea.
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September 6, 2002, 20:12
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King
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Markos:
I voted "no" in regards to the ad, but why don't you run it anyway? Sometimes the only way you can learn right from wrong is by getting burned in the process.
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September 6, 2002, 20:17
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You'd probably offend more people than you'd care to offend.
Personally, I don't find the banner any more distasteful than The Producers or other satire on Hitler. As Brooks says, the best way to diffuse the power of Hitler is by laughing at the one-testicled shithead.
As for the film, it is brilliant and still stands as a powerful statement agains fascism. Don't you remember his speech at the end? I'm seriously perplexed at how people could say the film is now somehow offensive, it certainly isn't.
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Tutto nel mondo è burla
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September 6, 2002, 20:20
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It's offensive to use someone dressed up as Hitler telling you to buy from Apolyton.
It's not offensive when it's intended as a statement against fascism.
Lots of people have relatives that died because of Hitler, and there is NO POINT to having someone dressed up as him saying "Buy Apolyton!". It's not even FUNNY out of context like this.
It's just a really, really dumb idea. It's another reason why I don't buy from the Apolyton store actually, I can't stand the stupid little ads.
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September 6, 2002, 20:23
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So is it offensive to have a man dressed up as Hitler, singing and dancing and acting like a buffoon, in order to sell $100+ tickets to a Broadway show?
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September 6, 2002, 20:25
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Deity
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I'm actually shocked that there are 19 "yes" votes to use the banner. WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING?!?
This banner is in VERY poor taste. Plain and simple as that.
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