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Adagio · December 15, 2002, 11:38

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Originally posted by Skanky Burns
For those who have voted, how do you think the next version of this should be: Continue with the series votes, or vote for single games (such that a vote for Civilization 2 would be seperate from a vote for Civilization 3).

It should be for seperate games (And preferly more than just 5 votes), since I e.g. love the game Battle Isle, but I simply hate the newer Battle Isle games (from BI2...)

And could it be each 3 months, it'll be reset, instead of just once each year (And then, make a year-count at the end of the year, where the top 10 games, for each "3-months-count", will be counted together?)...

Tamerlin · December 15, 2002, 11:56

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Originally posted by ADG
It should be for seperate games (And preferly more than just 5 votes), since I e.g. love the game Battle Isle, but I simply hate the newer Battle Isle games (from BI2...)

I agree with you, the vote should be given to seperate games.

lunger75 · December 15, 2002, 12:17

Actually, can I split my No. 3 spot and give
2 pts each to C&C and Harpoon ( It should be in there )

zulu9812 · December 15, 2002, 13:18

1. Civilization
2. SMAC
3. Total War
4. C&C
5. Dark Forces (this includes Jedi Knight 1 - great plot lines)

And yes, the vote should be on individual games

Frozzy · December 15, 2002, 15:58

1. Call to Power
2. Civilization
3. Championship Manager
4. C&C

Skanky Burns · December 15, 2002, 18:13

The complete list is available on the last page of this thread.

Frozzy · December 16, 2002, 03:25

Bleh... send the other 2 to SMAC then...

Adriano · December 16, 2002, 04:55

1) Call to Power 2 (MODDED!!)
2) CIV 2
3) Might & Magic VI
4) Ultima Underworld 1
5) Transport Tycoon

It's more sexy to vote for the single game...........

OnePresent · December 16, 2002, 09:20

1) Call to Power
2) Railroad Tycoon
3) Civilization
4) HoMM
5) SMAC

VJ · December 16, 2002, 09:51

Hmm... as soon as SMAC got the lead, CTP gets 6 10's in a row, SMAC gets no points...

MariOne · December 16, 2002, 10:29

HEY!
Voting!
RANKING!!!
How can I miss it!

But also, I can't help to nitpick and customise...

First, I strongly object to the consolidation of single games into whole series...
I knows, this helps avoiding the proliferation of entries.... but within a series you can find jewels along with crap.
For instance, I would (after a lot of internal struggle) rate CivII as 3rd, and I might even agree to bundle it with WinCiv and the original DOSCiv (there were more differences than just "Civ1"), but I would never accept that my vote for Civ helps the ranking of CivIII too.
Indeed, if I could, I would award Civ3 with a -50.
So, if it's not possible to keep my preference for CivII separate from thos who voted for Civ3 (a PoV shared by more than a few voters here too), I will see myself forced to.... renounce to express my vote for Civ altogether, and let my appreciation for the "series" be represented by SMAC alone.

2nd, as I see you granted such exception to Grumbold, I agree and maintain that the pool of 25 points to be awarded must not necessarily be split the default way you proposed 10-6-4-3-2, but can be freely managed by the voter - I know, this means more work for you, but you called for it when you granted the first exception, which now constitutes a precedence...

Furtherly, as I see you granted to (I think) thinkingamer, and to the many who split a position's point between two games, a voter is allowed to distribute his 25 points amongst more than 5 games.

Taken to the extreme, this means that I could be allotting the whole 25 points budget to a single game, or pulverise them sprinkling 1 single point to 25 different games....

That said, I will let you some time to ponder about this issues, and take an official position about it (but if you deny me (or any other voter) the above prerogatives, I expect that you revise accordingly all the exceptions that you granted above and take them back, for the sake of coherence... ), before I properly express my votes.

For now, I would say that I'd be inclined to start with
RIVEN 12pts
SMAC 5
and the remaining 8 to be allotted between...
MoM
Rogue/Angband
Machiavelli the Prince (original version of Merchant Prince)
Tetris (actually, mainly its Tube and 3D variants...)
F1GP
MoO2
LEMMINGS!
Stars!
Centurion
Brøderbund's "War!" (or was it Sun Tzu's the Art of War?)
Myst
hmmm.... maybe also Settlers II...
let's see... Mega-lo-mania...
maybe... ah, yes, Death Rally... MicroMachines...
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Oh, well, I know, in the final release this will have to be rehashed and some of the above will have to be left out.
This was just a preview, a self-brainstorming, while I wait for some feedback...

(as if my single vote wold be of any relevance when "The Civs" are already traveling towards 500 points...)

Pedrunn · December 16, 2002, 10:45

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Originally posted by Tuomerehu
Hmm... as soon as SMAC got the lead, CTP gets 6 10's in a row, SMAC gets no points...

That was because Martin the posted a warning thread in the CTP1 MP forum yesterday and i bumped the thread about this votation in the CTP2 General forum.

Skanky said that we should do that to have as many people as possible. So you should do the same in the AC foums.

Skanky Burns · December 16, 2002, 19:58

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First, I strongly object to the consolidation of single games into whole series...

That has been taken into consideration, and unless someone comes up with a good reason not to, the next version of this poll will be for single games. Civ 2 will be seperate from Civ 3.

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Taken to the extreme, this means that I could be allotting the whole 25 points budget to a single game, or pulverise them sprinkling 1 single point to 25 different games....

Not necessarily. I've set a cap for a single series to be, oh, 12 points. (It seems fair to allow you, considering I just made up that rule)

Whilst the minimum points you can assign a series is 1. Which brings me to my next point, you have 8 points split amongst 14 games...

Your votes for Riven and SMAC have been added, when you post your complete list I'll add them too. You can change your points allocation to Riven and Smac for your final vote if you so choose.

SMACers, as Pedrunn said, advertising in your forum is not only acceptable, but appreciated too.

I would like as many people to vote in this as possible before it ends.

Maquiladora · December 16, 2002, 20:05

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Originally posted by Pedrunn
Skanky said that we should do that to have as many people as possible. So you should do the same in the AC foums.

Noooooo dont tell em

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That has been taken into consideration, and unless someone comes up with a good reason not to, the next version of this poll will be for single games. Civ 2 will be seperate from Civ 3.

I do hope by the time the next poll comes around that all the blind Civ3 n00bs have left and dont vote it above CtP2, let alone Civ2. Having them in a series at least gave the look of this poll some credibility.

Maquiladora · December 16, 2002, 20:11

Having said that, CtP2 is beating Civ3 in the non series poll, but maybe because less people know about that one.

Pedrunn · December 16, 2002, 20:58

Oooops

Tamerlin · December 16, 2002, 21:14

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Originally posted by Pedrunn
Oooops

Shhhhhhh, you are talking too much Pedrunn !

Skanky Burns · December 16, 2002, 21:19

The challenge is on. They have 2 weeks to overcome CTP's recent points-fest.

vmxa1 · December 16, 2002, 21:35

1 - Master Of Orion
2- Heroes Of Might and Magic
3- MIght and Magic
4 - Command and Conquer
5 - Civilization

1 and 2 are a lock for me, the other three and can switch one for the other.

Warcraft and Warlords as Honorable Mentions.
My difficulty is in choosing a fav from one of the series. Moo vs Moo2 and Homm2 vs Homm3 etc.

MariOne · December 17, 2002, 06:40

Tough decisions had to be taken, and some of my nominees didn't make the cut:

Pts Game
10 RIVEN
6 SMAC
4 MoM
2 Stars!
1 Machiavelli the Prince
1 (Z)Angband (/Rogue and like games)
1 Lemmings

See, I ended to converge into an almost default points allotment

I would point out that Merchant Prince (already voted here), is merely the porting of the original Microprose's Machiavelli the Prince from DOS into Win-based environment. The game was THE SAME (with just one feature added: some "knowledge" to be bought before being enabled to use certain items/actions), and also most of the graphics remained almost the same, or when they were changed ti was for the worst. So much that if you peek in those Forums you'll only see protests for the ripoff (I fell in it too). And it appears to be broken too.
In this case, I think that merging the two entries should be due.

Skanky Burns · December 17, 2002, 07:03

Vote for your top 5 series!
Your highest ranked series gets 10 points, the next 6, then 4, 3, and finally 2 points. You may vote for more than 5 series, or allocate your points however you want so long as the total points you use are 25 (or less).
You can give a single series a maximum of 12 points, while the minimum points allowed is 1.

The complete list is available on the last page of this thread.