September 14, 2002, 17:20
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Warlord
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Australia will uphold the Gain Act. Space nations have no business attacking Earth nations. Also ILE has little evidence to justify an attack.
At the present moment Australia is in no position to sell it's food. Thousands are still starving in our once great cities.
We will sign a NAP with you, this NAP is good unless you attack us or Italy directly.
United Republic of Australia and New Zealand
Capitals: Auckland(Earth), New Sydney(Phobos), Crowntown(Venus)
Forigien Territories: Australian Phobos, Australian Venus
Population: 80 milion (33M Australia, 7M N.Z., 19M Venus, 21.5M Phobos)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 8 million
Suffering Famine: 2.3 million
Military:
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Airforce: Small
Space Navy: Medium
Nukes: We have a few...
Interplanetary Nukes: none
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September 14, 2002, 18:39
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Originally posted by Cinna
Australia will uphold the Gain Act. Space nations have no business attacking Earth nations. Also ILE has little evidence to justify an attack.
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No we do not, i agree and i never intended to imply that an attack was iminent.
But we sleep with our eyes are open......
Interstellar Lunar Empire (United Lunar States)
Capitals: New Washington (Luna) Pionneer (A.Centauri)
Foriegn Territories: Mercury, A. Centauri, Outreach I, Outreach II, Achilles Station, Artificial Centauri.
Population: 300 million (100 mil. Merc, 150 mil A. Centauri, 50 mil Luna)
Nuclear Winter Sick: none
Suffering Famine: none
Military:
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Airforce: Medium
Space Navy: Imperial
Nukes: no conventional nuclear weapons
Interplanetary Nukes: Many, on numerous hidden stations throughout 2 Solar Systems.
President Martius looked over the crowd huddled in the immense dome of New Washington and smiled. They had chosen him to lead their nation. He could now, by a mere whim, decide that the universe should now erupt into a nuclear war the likes of which not even the NAF or Incas had seen before. Such power was amazing, but the restrain he had to master to gain it was even more so, though few would appreciate it. War, grand as it may seem, hurt all and left few to tell the tale, especially nuclear war.
He was here to reward his people. The once pitiful nation hadgrown to a great Empire and he had to maintain that.
"My people, i hereby renew the charter, after a three year coma, of the Colonization and Exploration guild."
The people cheered it would be hard for any member of the Lunar Empire not to be ecstatic. The Guild had sent the first humans to the Centauri system. Where whould they go next....
The Lunar people agree that the Persian Empire is maybe unfit for it's job as a nation, however i would like to be sure that the Arab peoples maintain all of their land as their system of government is changed.
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September 14, 2002, 18:41
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Also the ULS is still ready to give food to any impovershed nations, we have meats from Centauri and plants from mercury and find that those provide far more than we could consume.
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September 14, 2002, 22:20
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OOC, mainly to mmtt:
I'm pretty sure that after the Genecom rebellion, we exiled the remaining Genecoms to the NAF. Perhaps there are a few in hiding, but we exiled almost all of them.
And yes, I know that the 'nuclear weapons' sentence is from Civ. I don't think it's misappropriated. After all, both of us do have nuclear weapons.
OOC, to everyone: Do you think we should PM Captain, and see if he will come back as the NAF? I'd like that, but I haven't seen him on Apolyton for a while.
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September 14, 2002, 22:26
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Diplomacy:
To NUSSR: We will sign a NAP, but we will still be guarding our borders well, for the time being.
To ILS/ULE: Please, for humanity's well-being, do not start another war.
About Mars: We will remain neutral in the conflict, but we are stepping up our defenses. A warning: Should one party attack us, we will ally with their enemies.
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September 14, 2002, 22:35
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Civman2000:
Would like to know if you will include some commies in this "Anti-Wasanti"? Or in any other party?
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Very few. THe anti-Wasanti socialists are 95% Democratic Socialists.
Wasanti strongly denies the allegations made by the opposition. SHe points out that most of her own family as well as many close friends of hers were killed int eh attacks, and says it is "absurd" to suggest that anyone in the governmnet was involved
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September 15, 2002, 06:14
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Warlord
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Red Army Deployment:
-25% on border in Western Europe (Germany and Italian Empire)
-70% near the Persia border
-5% in garrison mainly in Asia
The Red Army Persia Front starts active training for a possible offensive in Persia Empire.
Landing crafts and choppers are being built and sent to the front. Russian spy planes are being seen above Persia. NUSSR ask for Russian nationals to immediately leave Persia. Russian officials are saying that these preparative should only be seen as preventive measures to preserve NUSSR soils.
To Italian Empire:
If a preemptive attack on Persia Empire would be needed, the Red Army would like to work in coordination with their Italian colleagues. An amphibious attack on Istanbul, while your main forces would crush Persian Armies in Balkans and Greece, may take place. Without retreat by land, we would slaughter them.
Secret for Italian Emperor and only for his eyes:
After this possible strike, we may split the Persia Empire between us. You might want to raise once again the once-mighty Roman Empire around Mediterranean Sea. The Liberation of Greece would be only your glorious act. We will immediately recognize Italian influence in Greece. NUSSR would occupy Iraq, Iran and Kuwait mainly
This could be a secret clause for a military alliance.
To All United Nations members:
We are requesting IPF in Persia. The dictatorship and militarist politics of the Persian Government must be stopped. An embargo must also be setup to force the Persian Government to accept a peace treaty. If nothing can be done to reason Baghdad a Coalition would then have to occupy Persia.
NUSSR Stats:
-Building of a mobile invasion forces: 1 year
-Starting secret research on Genecom: 4 years
-"Five-year" Plan: 4 years
Collectivism done: All resources produced by NUSSR are equally given to NUSSR inhabitants. Farmers should keep a part of their production for their own needs.
Resizing Army to Large: Done
Territory: Russia, Scandinavia, Eastern Europe countries.
Capital: Moscow
Population: 197 million (mainly in Western Russia)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 12 million
Suffering Famine: 21 million
Army Size
Large Army
Medium Navy
Medium Air force
No Space Navy
Few nukes (around 50)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
PNB: 20 trillion NAF dollars (slowly increasing)
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Out of NUSSR, adressed to ILE:
Some former politics of Russia would like to setup an exiled Russia Democratic Government in ILE. Also the former Space Navy would join in if this proposal is accepted.
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SKILORD: Though if you let the politics starting up a new government, NUSSR will immediately remove her ambassador and stop any dealings or diplomatic affairs with your Empire.
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September 15, 2002, 06:46
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Diplomacy
To NUSSR: Unfortunatly, like our Australian friends, we are not in the position to sell you any food right now, as our people especially in the areas of Switzerland and Florence are starving (remember Biological Warfare attacks).
We will, however, agree in selling you some of our Leonardicum production.
Our garrison in the Italian-Russian border hd been lighten up a little bit.
OOC: Yes the Gaian Act is still in power
To All: How come nobody offered me anything for the Galileianus formula?
To ULS/ILE: Please, for the sake of all earthling nations, do not start another war, or this time there won't be any earth left for us to live in.
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Military:
Because of the recents International tension, Italy suspended the Denuclearization of themilitary projects, therefore keeping 50 of them in the arsenal.
Italy wish to tell that these nuclear devices are only to be considered as a deterrent, and none of them will be launched, unless somebody else nuke Italy, or any of her allies.
Part of the Italian Army and Navy is moving towards the Greek border and the Eastern Mediterraneum.
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About Persian Conflict
To NUSSR: We do recognize the need of an immediate change in government in the Persian Empire.
Italy will fully support any NUSSR actions taken against such a regime, and we will help the Russian "war of liberation" with any military action that we think is in our right to undertake.
To NUSSR, very extremely secret:
We agree with you, if a military campaign will be start against Persia, Italy will recognize Soviet influence over Iran, Iraq and Kuwait. While Italy will extend her influence in Greece, Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel/Palestine and Syria, therefore leaving the Persian Empire with all the Arab peninsula.
To UN: Italy votes yes at the constitution of an IPF in Persia, and think that it will be better if NUSSR and Italy will keep control over a few zone, in order to maintain peace in the area, and keep a closer eye at the Persian government.
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Italian stats and projects
Italian Stats and Projects
Denuclearization of military: Stopped
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 6 years
Army to Large: 3 years
Navy to Medium: 2 years
Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (NorthWestern-Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 255 milion (140 Europe, 89 Venus, 10 Phobos, 8 As Pioneer in Uranum, 8 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion
Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 3 turns)
Navy: Small (Medium: 2 turns)
Airforce: Small
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
Saluti
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
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"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 15, 2002, 07:32
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Warlord
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To Italian Empire:
The Politburo and I are extremely satisfied with our recent diplomatic dealings.
We shall also buy soon enough the Galileanus formula but unfortunately, due to tension with Persia, this has been regretfully delayed. Perhaps after a solution to Persia threat has been found, we shall come up to an agreement.
Deeply and sincerely from Moscow.
To Italia Emperor, top secret:
Our alliance has been signed and Red Army will be ready to advance in Persia by next year. Given that you are preparing for a remilitarization of your country, we will await your readiness state to launch our offensive.
We may also tell Australia about this? I know they are your long-time allies, but wouldn't they be quite upset about our invasion project, would they? I'm ready to accept Australia influence on Persia Indian Ocean possessions and maybe a part of the Arabic peninsula. I'm fully aware that Australia will enjoy the perspective of an important income in petrol and quite a nice position in the Ocean.
I and my colleagues eagerly await your reply to all this.
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September 15, 2002, 08:33
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To NUSSR: Italy is also very happy about the recent agreements between our two countries.
We will start sending the Leonardicum supplies anytime soon.
To NUSSR (Secret): Italy will soon start a massive upgrade of the Airforce as well, we should be ready in about 3 turns. We were thinking about the Australian inclusion in all this too, but we would have not known how this could have changed our deal. Now we know there won't be any problems.
To Australia (top secret): My Australian friends, I think it is in your interest to know that Italian and Soviet diplomats had recently signed a military cooperation pact, in case of a war against the Persian Empire.
As you are our long time and dearest ally, We would like, together with NUSSR, to include you too in the pact.
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Military:
A massive upgrade of the Italian military is currently going on.
Italian officials stated that this will probably be done inthe next three years.
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Italian Stats and Projects
Denuclearization of military: Stopped
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 6 years
Army to Large: 3 years
Navy to Medium: 2 years
Airforce to Medium: 3 years
Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 255 milion (140 Europe, 89 Venus, 10 Phobos, 8 As Pioneer in Uranum, 8 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion
Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 3 turns)
Navy: Small (Medium: 2 turns)
Airforce: Small (Medium: 3 turns)
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
Saluti
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
"If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 15, 2002, 10:45
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Warlord
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To Italy, NUSSR: Australia will support any action taken by Italy on the Persian Empire with ground troops and air support. The threat of a Persian dictatorship must be eliminated, very soon. We will begin a much overdue upgrade on our Airforce (most of our planes still carry the UK's flag ). We must also agree on how to split up the petrol, Australia needs this petrol, so our embargo cannot last too long.
To All: Australia has discontinued trade with Persia and pulled our diplomats from Baghdad.
projects:
Air force updrage: 3 years
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September 15, 2002, 13:36
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Warlord
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To Australia (secret):
NUSSR will soon send petrol to your country. We will send you petrol until Persia is under our control. Then you might want to implant petrol companies in Arabic Peninsula, this will be with NUSSR full support and convoy will be protected by NUSSR fleet. We hope you will accept this agreement.
To Italian Empire, Australia (top secret):
NUSSR would like to know if the three of us could meet and prepare a few things, mainly:
-Persia invasion and occupation plans
-Trades and dealings which will follow, regarding petrol, Leonardicum and Galileanum
-A further cooperation in research, development, army etc
-NUSSR would also like to join the Austro-Italian Pact.
I don’t mind the location, Europe, Asia or maybe space?
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September 15, 2002, 16:26
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OOC, to everyone: Do you think we should PM Captain, and see if he will come back as the NAF? I'd like that, but I haven't seen him on Apolyton for a while.
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Email him too!
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September 15, 2002, 16:33
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King
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Out of NUSSR, adressed to ILE:
Some former politics of Russia would like to setup an exiled Russia Democratic Government in ILE. Also the former Space Navy would join in if this proposal is accepted.
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SKILORD: Though if you let the politics starting up a new government, NUSSR will immediately remove her ambassador and stop any dealings or diplomatic affairs with your Empire.
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I give them the former Russian Moon bases and let them set up their own government there.
Now lets say you embargo me... so what? I am busy selling food to the starving masses and you will have to import from me eventually.....
Italy:
It would take immensely grave circumstances for the ULS to begin a war, our people have seen it's terror enough to fear it. We won't start a war without very good reason.
The ULS offers to help the NUSSR against Persia to show good will.
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September 15, 2002, 17:15
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Diplomacy
To ULS/ILE: We are glad you cleared your position about the possible threat of war against NUSSR, especially now that many diplomatic actions had been undergoing between Rome and Moscow.
To Australia, NUSSR: (secret) If it is ok with you, we shall meet all of us in the Royal Palace of Nova Torino (Venus), a few ships of our Space Fleet will come to pick you up and escort you to the Planet if there is need to.
Italy following the examples of her Allies the Australians, pulled off their diplomats from Baghdad.
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ROMAN NEWSPAPER
Persians army mass-murdered greek protesters
Accordingly to the report from the fleet stationing around Greece and Turkey, The Persian army had commited horrible atrocities against Greek rioters, protesting for a more tolerant religious system.
The protester would have been, according to the report, all killed by the Persian police raids.
The Persian authority denies all that, and claim it is all just propaganda, done to make Persia appear evil to the Italian eyes.
Persia, however, still denies any religious right to Christian-Hortodox Greeks.
Saluti
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
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"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 15, 2002, 18:46
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King
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ULS diplomats have left Bahgdad.
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September 15, 2002, 22:41
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To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:
I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.
GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.
OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.
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September 16, 2002, 12:29
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King
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Diplomacy
To GFDR: According to the last Italian Intelligence report, Persia does not hold any Nuclear weapons, or any other mass-destruction weapons.
Italy also thinks that strike against Persia is in need, since the Persian government is an authoritarian despotic regime, where the Persian Sultan had proclaimed himslef as the god-like ruler of the WORLD.
In addiction, the Persian gov't had aften treated her own people as slaves, and assasinated whoever tried to oppose such a regime.
Italy thinks that any democracy should not tolerate such a despotic country to exist.
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Military
Half of the Italian garrison guarding the border with Russia had been moved to the military bases in Bulgaria.
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Italian Stats and Projects
Denuclearization of military: Stopped
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 5 years
Army to Large: 2 years
Navy to Medium: 1 years
Airforce to Medium: 2 years
Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 256 milion (138 Europe, 88 Venus, 10 Phobos, 10 As Pioneer in Uranum, 10 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion
Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 2 turns)
Navy: Small (Medium: 1 turns)
Airforce: Small (Medium: 2 turns)
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
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NOVA TORINO (VENUS) - SECRET MEETING
The leaders of Australia, NUSSR and Italy start their meeting in the Conference room of the Royal Palace in Nova Torino, The Capital of the Venusian italian provinces.
General Philippo Loculopoulis, The Defense Minister, had very strong feelings about this meeting, since beeing of Greek origins he really cares about the future of his old fatherland.
About the Persian Conflict
"this is the plan that Italy propose" started the general "We will need perfect coordination of all our forces, in order to not allow the Persian any chance of defend herself" NUSSR forces will drop down from the north east, sweeping deep into Persian territories, they'll take Samarcanda, Kabul and other North eastern cities, they'll use their air-superiority to weaken the Persian defence in the area, and then just let the army finish the job. Australian and Italian navies will start bombing the most important ports in the mediterraneum and the Arabian peninsula, Italian forces will start invading from Turkey and Israel (we figured that we should have people's support in Israel) this will allow Australia to land an invasion force in Yemen and Oman, and to quickly conquer their way up.
Since the Persian forces will be to spread out to efficiently fight three different armies, in three different fronts (in air, land and sea) we should be able to quickly overrun the country.
When all attacks will be done, we'll squeeze the rest of Persian defense in Baghdad"
Here is a map plan: (I spent a lot of effort in drawing it )
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
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"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 16, 2002, 13:37
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Originally posted by Jonny
To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:
I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.
GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.
OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.
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1. I will only go to war against Persia to prove to the NUSSR that i have no evil intentions towards her and am willing to work alongside her.
2. We don't want their land and want the Persian people to keep it.
3. It would be best to remove diplomats in an area that at least 2 nations plan to invade.
4. All ULS craft use either liquid oxygen or fusion. We don't need any petrol.
5. At the last minute we decided not to give the former Russian colonies to the emigres and instead set them up on a space Station, Haven , built for this purpous in the Centauri system.
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September 16, 2002, 13:53
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If the NUSSR accept my offer for help you'll have to add in ULS strafing runs to your calculations Giovanni.
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September 16, 2002, 15:19
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Italy welcomes ULS involvment in the Persian conflict
but Italy can not agree to this term:
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As we think it is better to keep a closer eye in Persia, and to help the people living there to start a new way of living, that they never experienced before, FREEDOM.
The only way to grant this, is to keep a foot on those lands. So that a new despot will never rise again between them, and in order to start up some infrastructures there.
If the ULS is willing to join this project we will rework our military plan
Saluti
OOC: Petrol is not very useful in Italy, not as a fuel, (we use fusion power engines, or liquid Hydrogen), but it is still used as an alternative source of power (since Italy is against Nuclear plants).
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
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"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 16, 2002, 15:36
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Originally posted by Jonny
To Italy, Australia, NUSSR, ULS:
I strongly urge you not to pursue war with the Persians. They have done nothing harmful to the world, and your claims about their government are unjustified. In fact, by declaring war on Persia, you are making problems worse, as they will probably use weapons of mass destruction in defense. Persia does not need a 'regime change', you are simply making things up in order to take their land, and we do not approve of that.
GDFR diplomats remain in Baghdad.
OOC: In the game, it is now the 23rd century, so isn't petrol much less important than it is in real life? After all, fusion and other alternative-energy sources are widely available in the game.
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Australia supports human rights for all people everywhere. We feel it is our duty to 'liberate' people from a dictator who severely limits rights of minorities and women. Instead of annexing any of Australia we will give it back to the people, while still keeping a sphere with economic influence.
Australia mobilizes for an invasion, careful not to create a formal declaration of war.
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September 16, 2002, 16:54
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Warlord
Local Time: 08:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
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To Italian Empire and Australia during the conference:
NUSSR agrees to this plan (nice map btw). To further aid our allies, we will give you some of our landing crafts to help you in your operations around Israel.
We will also send a division of elite forces around Istanbul to cut off supply for Persian army in Greece.
On our side, we will not launch a big offensive in Caucasus by land. Mountains would be a great difficulty to overcome. Instead we will use helicopters and our navy to land behind the mountains. Another army will like you said size Samarqand and Kabul and quickly afterwards move in to take Baghdad.
If you agree to this, our troops will immediately attack on your signal.
Petrol is needed for NUSSR, wars and destruction has required the need of every possible resource in NUSSR, including petrol.
To ULS, and read by Australia and Italia:
We shall accept this proposal but with two conditions.
-NUSSR and her allies will have their hands free in Persia.
-We shall be able to judge and possibly to arrest former Russia politics. At least, they shouldn't be free of their movements and be under close-surveillance.
NUSSR projects:
Five year Plan: 3 years
Genecom Research: 3 years
Readiness for war: done
Research for new rifles and infantry weaponry has been started: 2 years
Last edited by mmtt; September 17, 2002 at 01:10.
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September 16, 2002, 22:45
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Local Time: 02:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville / St. Louis
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To ULS, Italy, Australia, NUSSR:
OK, if you truly believe that Persia needs a new government, fine.
I just ask you one thing: that you do not take their land for good, just install a good, democratic government. After the war, you can keep peacekeeping forces there, just don't take their land!
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September 17, 2002, 08:25
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King
Local Time: 08:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Location: of Italian Red Wine
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Persian Conflict Plan
Ok... if the ULS will join us in this war, than I think that the main forces of the ULS should help the Australian in the landing invasion... as that might be the more difficult one.
About the Caucasus problem, I think that NUSSR can easily avoid the problem by landing a few troops from the Caspian Sea, or by parashooting them.
Or maybe, the Italian forces may take on that city, as we think that there shoiuld not be too much obstacles in our front.
Italian ships were alredy supposed to cut off Greece from the Persian supplies (see map), but if the Russian wish to help... it is no problem for us.
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Military
Navy size increased from Small to Medium, Army and Airforce will be due 1 year.
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Italian Stats and Projects
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 4 years
Army to Large: 1 year
Navy to Medium: done
Airforce to Medium: 1 year
Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 256 milion (136 Europe, 86 Venus, 10 Phobos, 12 As Pioneer in Uranum, 12 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion
Military:
Army: Medium (Large: 1 turn)
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Small (Medium: 1 turn)
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
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"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
"If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 17, 2002, 13:27
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King
Local Time: 07:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Don't you feel silly now?
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To ULS, and read by Australia and Italia:
We shall accept this proposal but with two conditions.
-NUSSR and her allies will have their hands free in Persia.
-We shall be able to judge and possibly to arrest former Russia politics. At least, they shouldn't be free of their movements and be under close-surveillance.
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As for the first i agree, i will not take their land and my forces will but support as the current allied forces are adequate to defeat their army.
The second though... i must remind you that the station Haven is a sovreign state and not under my juridstiction.
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September 17, 2002, 13:43
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King
Local Time: 07:49
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Don't you feel silly now?
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Icy Grip 1 Day
Army training upgraded
Merchantile fleet upgraded.
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September 17, 2002, 13:54
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Warlord
Local Time: 08:49
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To ILE:
Well even if station Haven isn't under your jurisdiction you set them up their and though Haven basically belongs to you. A small part of your own space fleet should guard this station and no politics should be able to leave it.
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September 18, 2002, 08:15
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King
Local Time: 08:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: May 2002
Location: of Italian Red Wine
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Diplomacy
To Australia, NUSSR, ULS/ILE: Italy is ready for the attack on Persia.
We are waiting for your "ok"
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Military:
The army and irforce upgrades are done.
Italian forces are now, mainly located in South-east Europe.
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Italian Stats and Projects
Colonization of Uranum and Neptun: 3 years
Army to Large: done
Airforce to Medium: done
Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base.
Claimed: Uranum and Neptun
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus).
Chief-Colonies: Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun)
Population: 258 milion (135 Europe, 85 Venus, 10 Phobos, 14 As Pioneer in Uranum, 14 As Pioneer in Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 3 milion
Military:
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Medium
Space Navy: Large
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none
__________________
"Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
"If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
"In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio
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September 18, 2002, 09:30
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Warlord
Local Time: 08:49
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Nov 2001
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To coalition powers, ILE, Italian Empire and Australia (top secret):
NUSSR forces are ready for action, all our army is on full alertness and ready to move in. Our marine’s forces are being loaded in landing crafts and artillery is positioned and ready to shoot. Our elite armored columns are being given new rifles and anti-tanks weaponry and flame thrower for bunker assaults.
Red Army chief of staff, Marshal Ivanof Gorkhvikin, will lead Red Army offensive and General Chuikov and Kovonov will command Caucasus and Iranian fronts respectively. At the end of the first day, Persian Army should have been crushed and our main forces should liberate Samarqand and reach frontier with Iraq. We should be in Baghdad in two weeks after the start of the invasion. But the enemy shouldn’t be able to reform their army. That’s why Marshal Gorkhvikin has stated that all the invasion NUSSR forces will encircle the maximum enemy forces in pocket.
Our Special Forces are already in action and will soon blow up bridge, communication lines, railways and carburant depots.
To world community:
Chairman Vladimir Illiouchine thanks his allies for their help and support and has addressed their last ultimatum to Persian authorities stating tha they have 12 hours (real time) to apply international requests.
To ALLIES (EXTREMELY SECRET AND TO LEADER EYES ONLY)
Red Army will invade in 6 hours (real time). We won’t change our minds.
Its 03:30 pm here. At 09:25, bombardments will start, at 09:27 landing crafts will land, at 09:30 our main forces attack.
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OOC: its up to you now...
Last edited by mmtt; September 18, 2002 at 09:52.
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