SNESA2 Reborn: Ad Infinitum once more. - Page 5

Jack_www · September 26, 2002, 22:50

To the GDFR:

We gladly accept your offer of peace.
(Top secret):
Would you be willing to share any of your knowledge of the stars and advancements with us in exchange for resources or gold? We are also open to forming scienticfic alliances at this time as well.

To all:
Currentlly we are growing a surplus of food. So much so that this has caused problems for our farmers, sand thus the price of grain has droped since the Great War on our planet. Thus we can trade food to anyone who needs it.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

Giovanni Wine · September 27, 2002, 08:33

Hi Razey

Finally you decided to visit me on these boards

Glad you joined in the NES.

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IC:
To ULS (top secret):
Italy is interested in your proposal.
We say we will not attack you, but in exchange, we would like to now more about your space explorations.
And we ask that the ULS Space Navy will not interfere with the Triple Pact colonization projects (The Italian Space fleet is very near to complete an Interstellar Krypton fueled spacecraft, wich will allow us to reach far away solar system).
Of course, Italy will not interfere with ULS colonization projects, and will not claim land where the ULS already is.
We would also like to know something more about these rumored alien race called Draconians.

Your in friendship:
Emperor Michelangelo
Prime Minister Georg Kalac

To Triple Pact:
I don't think the Triple Pact members should follow the same foreign policies.
I think it is good if we stick to a normal Scientific and techonology cooperation, and a defensive military alliance with the possibility in case of an offensive war, for the other members of the Pact to join or not to join in the conflict. (but they still should send war supplies to the allied).

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Military
The ISA (Italian Space Agency) has recently developed a new kind of Krypton fueled Spacecraft.
This new spaceship can reach speed of 3'000'000'000 meter per second (that's about 10 times faster than the speed of light) (although if you think it is too much I'll reduce it). This new spacecraft will probably allow us to travel through the many solar systems of the universe.
When tested the spacecraft reached Pluto in just a little more than 1 second, that's an amazing result according to the ISA.

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International Projects
Nuclear Winter solution: (GFDR, NUSSR, ULS and Italy): 22 years

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Italian Stats and Projects
Archeological studies in Neptun: XX years
Space Navy to Huge: 6 years

Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base, Italian Uranum, Italian Neptun, Italian Middle-East.
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus), Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun), Damascus (Middle East)
Population: 383 milion (128 Europe, 115 Middle East, 84 Venus, 10 Phobos, 25 Uranum, 21 Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: 8 milion

Military:
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Medium
Space Navy: Large (Huge: 6 years)
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none

Jack_www · September 27, 2002, 10:53

To Italy:

Greatings form the Confedrate States of Draconia. We propose a non-agression pact between our two peoples. We disire only to be at peace with our neighbors and wish no harm to anyone. Also we are open to trading of knowledge and resouces as well.
We have also noted reports form your planet that indicate millions are suffering form famine. If these reports are true we would most certainly like to help your people, no one should need to go with out food and we are a kind people, so please accept this offer of help. Allthough we lack any means of traveling to other planets, you would need to ship the grain your self.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

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Universal Projects:
As we learn more about the life forms that live in the Universe arround us, we have realized that we are behind 400 years in technological advancement of even the least advanced life forms that live in surrounding solar systems. Thus we are under going a project of trying to modernize our planet. Of course at the moment such a project is impossible. So we plan to send our top scientists and resreachers to the centers of learning to the our various neighbors to learn and observe.

Thus we request if we could buy passage both to your planet earth and the moon that is home to the ULS on one of your transports, if you could send one by Planet Draconia we would be very greatfull indeed. This way we can learn more about you just as you have been learning about us in the past year.

Stats:
Name: Confederate States of Draconia
Territory: Draconia
Capital: Dracon
Population: 165 Million
Suffering Famine: None

Military:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Small Airforce (Note: Biplanes)
No Nukes
No Space Navy

Giovanni Wine · September 27, 2002, 11:11

To Draconians
Italy is glad to sign a NAP with you.
We are glad that the earthlings are not the only humanoids in the universe.
Italy accepts your proposal of buying food from your country.
In exchange for the food we will gladly share some of our technologies develpoment with your scientist, such as the Leonardicum* or others.

Your in Peace
Emperor Michelangelo
Prime Minister Georg Kalac

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* It is a very strong but flexible metal, which can resist to very high and very low temperatures, that metal was invented by the Italian Scientist Leonardo back in the original SNESA2, it is basically the perfect metal.

Saluti

Jack_www · September 27, 2002, 11:19

To Italy:
We like to learn more about this metal you speak of, once we know more of what it can be used for we can make a deal. The only problem is I fear such a metal would be useless to us at this time, if that is the case we can work something out. Right now we are trying to improve the design of our aircraft, if you could help us with that we can start sending the food.

Giovanni Wine · September 27, 2002, 11:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack_www
To Italy:
We like to learn more about this metal you speak of, once we know more of what it can be used for we can make a deal. The only problem is I fear such a metal would be useless to us at this time, if that is the case we can work something out. Right now we are trying to improve the design of our aircraft, if you could help us with that we can start sending the food.

Well that metal is perfect for any weapon design, as it will allow for them to be used almost on every planet of any solar system.
It is also very good for construction when colonising far away and cold planets, as well when colonising very hot planets.

That metal was already sold by Italy to almost all earth nations, and by our source is still very used. I'm sure you'll find it very useful yourself.

If you don't find the metal attractive, we will give you the design of the IP-450 it is the airplane that was used victorious by the Italian forces in the war in Russia.
Although we can not sell you the modern IP-470 plans. (the current one used in the Italian Airforce) as it only for us or our allies to be used.

Saluti

Jack_www · September 27, 2002, 11:37

To Italy:

In the future we would like to buy your metal, but as I feared that this metal is useless to us at this time. But we would like to trade the design of the IP-450 plane in exchange for enough food to feed all the people who suffering fom famine in your country for 3 years or more. If this is not acceptable, we can offer anther proposal.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

Giovanni Wine · September 27, 2002, 11:49

Italy agrees to the deal.

Italian ships will soon start to travel back and fourth your planet.

Saluti

Razey · September 27, 2002, 12:21

Hi

So I'll be Africa.

After her election Sara Muglie from the African state of Lybia joined her ministers in Anatananarrive, in order to have a small brief of the world situation.

After the little summary a decision needed to be made.

"Shall we side with the Triple Pact, or should we instead ally with the ULS and Germany?"

"With Germany!" shouted the Internal minister "they are a good example of free and peaceloving nation, but they still are very strong and they'll protect us, and they have powerfull allies"

"No!" declared the Defense minister "Germany and the ULS are too busy colonizing far away planet, and they surely not come to protect us in case of war... The Triple Pact would be the best choice, they are getting stronger and stronger, they are our neighbors... it is better to keep them friendly"

"I think we should stay neutral instead" claimed the Foreign advisor "it wuld be best if our countries will not get involved in any conflict"

"But if somebody attack us... our small army is not able to face the compined military of the Triple Pact, or of the Pact of Freedom"

"No, no and no"

The discussion kept going on for a very long time.

In the end everybody agreed it was better to join another alliance and to leave the Star Researcher Pact soon, especially since a lot of our people are starving to death in this Nuclear winter.

The Anarchy that was going on in Senate was not a good thing for the African Confederation. A decision needed to be take soon.

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To Italy: Africa joins you nuclear winter project (OOC: Giovanni kept telling me to do it

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African Confederation:
Medium Army
Small Navy
Small Airforce
No Nukes
Small Space Navy
Govt: Republic
Ruler: Razey
MPP's: none
War: none

mmtt · September 27, 2002, 12:28

Pravda News:
Elite Soviet Space Marines, the Soviet Septnaz Corps, has landed on Mars in an officially peacekeeping mission! They are setting up defensive position in New Siberia Province and some other socialist colonies.
Our instructors are training people in self-defense against any threat from “capitalist threats” on free Mars.

Foreign Policy:

To ILE/GDFR: Do not go too far on Mars… Any further attempts on free socialist Mars colonies will be understood as a declaration of war on NUSSR. Mars shall be free until a government is in place, communist or not. This government shall be elected by the FREE will of Martian people.

To Triple Pact: NUSSR wants to be able to send her transports to Dragoon System Solar. Research in space propulsion must be done by the allies and shared. NUSSR wants full access to space technologies.

To Italian Empire: NUSSR wants to know in which side you are. You seems to be more friendly towards GDFR and ILE than to your rightfully allies. Do not feel this is an ultimatum, we only wish to be sure you are on our side.

To ILE(extremely secret):
Me, Chairman of NUSSR, would like to personally see you in a totaly confidential meeting to discuss important matters. You shall not tell anyone about this meeting, even not me. I will give you where I want to meet you and when. *
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News from China:
Prime Minister of China has died in a plane crash. Mr. Tsung N’aiyguen has taken his place until next elections. Chinese politics didn’t comment this as Red Army troops are now moving in China to officially protect her from any foreign aggression.

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New Union of Soviet Socialist Republics:

Territories: NUSSR, PRP and next year People’s Republic of China.
Capitals: Moscow, Baghdad and Peking
Population: 350 million, next year 1 464 million
Nuclear Winter sick: 40 million
Suffering famine: 4 million

Military:
Army: Huge (best in world)
Air Force: Large
Navy: Medium
Space Navy: Medium
Nukes: In Europe
Interplanetary Nukes: 2

Research:
Modernizing Army: 1 year
Five-Year Plan: 2 years

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OOC: I would like to know if laser weaponry (or any future weaponry) is in use or if we are still in bullets/shells times.
*Just reply if you accept this or not.

Cinna · September 27, 2002, 15:44

Africa is always welcome to sign a NAP with Australia, and we will be happy to assist your continent in any way possible.

NUSSR: Your proposal is fine, Australian scientists will accompany you to the Dragoon system.

And please never EVER question what side Italy is on. Doubt in our alliance will only make us weaker.

Name: United Republic of Australia and New Zealand
Territories: Australia, NZ, Aus. Phobos, Aus. Venus, Australian Arabia.
Capitals: Auckland (NZ), New Sydney (Phobos), Crowntown (Venus), Sanaa(Yemen, Middle East)
Population: 213 million (38 Australia 7 NZ, 115 Middle East, 27 Venus, 26 Phobos)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 6 milion
Suffering Famine: 2 milion

Military:
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Small
Space Navy: Medium (Large: 7 years)
Nukes: --
Interplanetary Nukes: none

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mmtt: as we have been playing for quite some time, and can travel at light speed i'm sure we at least have plasma and laser weaponry, if not more advanced.

Giovanni Wine · September 27, 2002, 16:15

To NUSSR: Italy of course side with the Triple Pact, and her dearest ally the Australians and the Soviet.
However, we do like to have friends also outside of the alliance.
Italy was gonna share the Krypton propulsion fuels just after the tests with all of the other alliance member, and we are gonna do it now. However we did not like your questioning about which side we are playing for. We should feel offended by that, but for the good of the alliance we will not create a futile incident out of that.
Now that everything is cleared i think we can say "case closed".

To Africa: We thank you for your help to the Nuclear Winter Solution project.

To Africa (secret): Italy would like to purchase from you the area around the Suez Canal, or at least to have free passage in there.
In exchange for that, we will help your nation in her space colonization efforts, or in anything else you might need.

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International Projects
Nuclear Winter solution: (GFDR, NUSSR, ULS, Africa and Italy): 11 years

Saluti

Jack_www · September 27, 2002, 17:15

To NUSSR and Africa:

Greatings form the Confedrate States of Draconia. We propose a non-agression pact between our two peoples. Also we desire to help your people who are now dieing of famine. We still have large suplus of food on our planet and can trade it for advancements.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

Foreign Policy:
We note that you humans have been fighting amoung yourselfs for a long time, and it appears to us that war might break out on the Planet Earth once again. We simply want to be at peace with the human race and do not want to get involved in the conflict that you are under going now.

Jonny · September 27, 2002, 19:28

To Africa:Greetings from President Adolph von Steuben of the GDFR. We propose a Non-Agression Pact, in order to ensure peace between our two nations.

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To Africa(top secret): We would like it very much if you were to join our alliance. If you join our alliance, we would gladly help your nation in space colonization efforts. We would also send you any food the citizens of your nation might need.

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To Draconia (top secret): I believe a scientific pact can be worked out.

We also wish to invite you to our alliance. If you join, we will give you some of our Space Flight technology, some of our older ships, and the technology for Nuclear Fusion.

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To NUSSR: Do not think that we are trying to free socialist Mars. May I remind you that the government of Mars is not a socialist one. They are in the midst of a civil war, and we are sending forces there in order to stop the bloodshed and establish a stable government.

I'd also like to remind you that we are not the only ones being agressive. You, my friend, are also quite agressive.

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To ULS(top secret):

The NUSSR is acting quite hostile towards us. There is the possibility of a war in the future. Be wary.

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To the World: Recently we proposed to our friends, the UK, an offer of annexation. They accepted our proposal. They told us that they accepted it because the GDFR's military and economic strength would help them survive and prosper.

The GDFR flag now flys proudly over London.

Jack_www · September 27, 2002, 20:31

To GDFR(Top secret):

We are open to an scienticfic alliance and the trading of technology. Only thing that worries our planet is that we do not wish to be drawn in to the conflict that is ongoing on your planet. Our people are stick of war and need time to heal their wounds. We can though offer assiantence with supplies that you need to defend your self. Also the state of our armed forces at this time is such that if we were to go to war with a nation on earth, it would surely mean the end of all life on planet Draconia. I hope you understand, but I do want to work something out.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

mmtt · September 28, 2002, 05:45

Pravda News to World:
China has willingly joined the NUSSR. This is great news for all Russians and Chinese they are now united brothers under the communist flag! Latest NUSSR tanks are defilading through Shanghai, Peking, Canton and Hong-Kong.

Foreign Policy

To Italian Empire:
We are sorry. It was a misunderstanding from our own part.
We would like to be able to use your own transports to reach Draconia while we are building new ones.

To Draconia:
We would greatly accept your shipments but we can’t reach you. We do not have the capacity to do so now. We have just received the technology but none of our spaceships is equipped so. We have just launched a new modernization of our space fleet and next year, our first shipments will reach you. But a few of our own goods and yours will be sent via ISA.
We will accept you NAP at the condition you allow the establishment of an USSR embassy and a Communist Party in Draconia.

To Africa:
Joining the Pact of Freedom would be a bad idea. You may also think that joining the Triple Pact is also a bad idea.
In fact from your point of view, you should stay neutral. This we understand.
But you must understand that if a war occurs you will be struck in the middle of it and no one will care about your confederation.

That’s why NUSSR asks you to be wise and accepts Italy proposal whatever it might be. Replying by joining Pact of Freedom would be considered an insult and we will take measures against it.

To World:
NUSSR condemns Fourth Reich occupation of free United Kingdom. There wasn’t any danger for UK, now NUSSR feels piety for poor British under the terrible occupation of long time enemy, Germany. Brave British citizens shouldn’t have trust their evil capitalist leaders ready to sell their own country to the enemy.
In reaction, NUSSR stops any trades with GDFR and asks her allies to do the same.

Socialist Mars colonies have united under a new flag. Soviet forces are protecting them.

Jack_www · September 28, 2002, 06:45

To NUSSR:

What are you willing to offer for the surplus food we have? We are looking for more advancements, since we are behind all other nations. If you can offer an advancement we can make food avaible for transport.
Also why you wish to set up a "comunist party" here on Draconia? Are people do not take kindly to out side influence form a foreign. As stated before we wish no part in the struggle your planet is under going now, and I fear that we will be drawn into a war we wish no part of if you set this communist part up on Planet Draconia.
You know little of our planet or history, and I think setting up such a party will send wrong message to the people of Draconia.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

Jack_www · September 28, 2002, 08:42

To Africa(Top Secret):

I think we should seek some sort of alliance between our two peoples. We have many things in common, such as trying to stay nuetral in the on going conflict between the ULS and the NUSSR.

Signed,
Jack_www, President of Planet Draconia

Giovanni Wine · September 28, 2002, 08:56

To NUSSR:
Emperor Michelangelo is glad that everything was cleared out between our two great nations.
ISA will of course be glad to transport the food you need from Draconia to NUSSR.
The Emperor himself congratulates Vladimir on his recent diplomatic succes in China.
May the glory of the Triple Pact shine on the Universe.

Your dear ally and friend:
Emperor Michelangelo
Prime Minister Georg Kalac

To GFDR:
Italy is worried about the recent annexation of the UK in Germany. We feel unsafe since we are the only other nation left in Europe that is not under the Fourth Reich flag.

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International Projects
Nuclear Winter solution: (GFDR, NUSSR, ULS, Africa and Italy): 10 years

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Italian Stats and Projects
Archeological studies in Neptun: XX years
Space Navy to Huge: 5 years

Name: New Italian Empire
Territories: Italian Europe, Italian Phobos, Italian Venus, Galapagos Italian Military Base, Italian Uranum, Italian Neptun, Italian Middle-East.
Capitals: Roma (Europe), Nova Firenze (Phobos), Nova Torino (Venus), Nova Belgrade (Uranum), Nova Bucarest (Neptun), Damascus (Middle East)
Population: 388 milion (129 Europe, 116 Middle East, 85 Venus, 10 Phobos, 26 Uranum, 22 Neptun)
Nuclear Winter Sick: 23 milion
Suffering Famine: none

Military:
Army: Large
Navy: Medium
Airforce: Medium
Space Navy: Large (Huge: 5 years)
Nukes: 50 (all located in Europe)
Interplanetary Nukes: none

Saluti

Jack_www · September 28, 2002, 08:58

Universal Projects:
Now that we are sending grain to Earth, we have also been able to send our scientist to the planet Earth to study humans and to learn their knowledge.
We estimate it will take 10 years for out scientist to finish and share the knowledge they have gained with the rest of out planet.

Projects:
Now that we have new design of aircraft we are now upgrading our airforce. We estimate that this upgrade will take 3 years to complete.

Also our scientist have discovered a way to improve the armor of our tanks and to improve speed and range.
Thus upgrade of our armor units is under way and will take 3 years to complete.

Stats:
Name: Confederate States of Draconia
Territory: Draconia
Capital: Dracon
Population: 175 Million
Suffering Famine: None

Military:
Medium Army (upgrading)
Small Navy
Small Airforce (upgrading)
No Nukes
No Space Navy

To Italy (Top Secret):

We may have some natural deposites of the fuel that your spaceships run on. We are currently looking into the matter and if we find any maybe we can work out a deal.

Giovanni Wine · September 28, 2002, 09:19

To Draconia:
We are open to any proposal.

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Since the recent changes on earth... here is a new World Map.

North American Federation (Toronto) - Purple
Incaland (Buenos Aires) (demilitarized zone) - Dark Green
German Fourth Democratic Reich (Berlin) - Blue (+ Antarctica)
New Italian Empire (Rome) - Black
African Confederation (Antanannarive) - Yellow
New Union of the Soviet Socialist Repubblics (Moscow) - Red
Persia (Green) - Bassora
United Repubblic of Australia and New Zealand (Auckland) - Light Blue
Japan (Tokyo) - Purple-Red
India (New Delhi) - Very Light Green

White Dots: Capital locations.

Enjoy

Jack_www · September 28, 2002, 09:27

My I ask who is playing as North American Federation?

mmtt · September 28, 2002, 09:28

To Draconia:
NUSSR will give you the technology to build some of her mighty T-2000, the winner tank of the Persian War. We can send you 1000 this year. Accepting this deal will fasten your modernizing. We can also send you some steel from Sweden.

To Triple Pact:
I would like the building of a defensive line from Italy to Norway. I also request the sending of our fleet in Mediterranean Sea, Northern Sea and Baltic Sea.
These actions should be taken to prevent any imperialist expansion from Germany.

Giovanni Wine · September 28, 2002, 09:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack_www
My I ask who is playing as North American Federation?

Well

Last SNESA2 it was Captain the NAF leader, he started as canada and he diploannexed the USA and Mexico forming the NAF.

They are the strongest state on Earth (but right now probably NUSSR is superior) but they have no space colonies.

I think that for now the NAF is open, however I hope that Captain will come back and take the NAF back into his control.

Saluti

Jack_www · September 28, 2002, 09:41

To NUSSR :
We agree to your deal. We will send enough food to feed all your people for 5 years.

Update on projects:
Army upgrade will now take 1.5 years to complete.

To All Nations:
We are looking for help in setting up a space program here on Draconia and for help in devopling ways of exploring space. Any help in this area you can give we would be happy to accept.

Jonny · September 28, 2002, 10:49

To Italy(secret): You should not worry about us annexing you. We have been friends for the longest of time, and we do not wish for that friendship to end.
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To the World: The GDFR denounces the annexation of China by the NUSSR. They did not annex them in a peaceful manner. They merely took advantage of the leader of China's death by moving forces into the country and militarily annexing them, without any say by the people. However, our annexation of the UK was done in a peaceful manner. The people of the UK voted on the matter; they could have declined the proposal if they wanted to. However, they decided to join us instead.

In response to the annexation of China, we are placing a trade embargo on the NUSSR. We are also placing more forces along the NUSSR border, as they clearly plan to invade us.

SKILORD · September 28, 2002, 11:33

Your messages to Draconia must be carried by either Germany or ourselves because no other nation posesses the engines we do that allow us to travel to other systems.

Draconia:
I would like to help you upgrade your tech, our old, Pre-Comet days Jets will be sold to you for a cheap price and we will also give you a couple of spaceships. your planet is filled with all you need to become a modern nation.

SKILORD · September 28, 2002, 11:57

Never mind, read up you guys can reach 'em.

But i warn you now:
The system, other than the planet Draconia, is closed to your colonization as it belongs to Germany and I.

To Africa: (Top Secret)
The ULS and germany will hardly sit on the sidelines as any nation attacked you, join us to make the world safe for freedom.

To Germany: (Top Secret)
You are right, they are being wantonly agressive, trying to throw their weight around. Remember that compared to the two of us, their weight is insignificant.

SKILORD · September 28, 2002, 12:01

The Nations of India and Japan are now officially under my protection. An attack on them is an attack of the Commonwealth of Free Nations*:

*-A recently formed, closely binding pact dominated by the ULS but including Persia, India, and Japan as well. Kinda like the British commonwealth.

Giovanni Wine · September 28, 2002, 13:17

To NUSSR Italian troops are already in good enough positions to defend our borders in case of war. We do not think there is need to build and mantain a costly defensive line along the Italian - German border, as we think that a war against Germany is very very far from today, or we better say, it will probably never happen. (and anyway, Italy would not be ready for such a huge war, against one of our oldest friend)

Your in Peace:
Emperor Michelangelo
Prime Minister Georg Kalac
Defense Minister Gen. Philippo Loculopoulis

To Triple Pact and Pact of Freedom: We are worried about the recent political tensions between our two alliances, let' s try to work together in peace, rather than start a new and bloody war.

We are just saying give peace a chance

Saluti