Really official : Base three location

[Pandemoniak]

13-09-2002 16:08

Official : Location of base three

The minerals gathered in New Apolyton finally allowed us to finish that colony pod. with these new materials, we tried to build this pod same as they were built on earth. According to the latest reports I received, the results made the director of base production are amazing ! He made a pod exactly like they were built on earth, in less time, and with less materials !!! ( remember how long it takes to build a CP in the end of Civ2...)

Now, the question last : where will we put our base ?
Despite the last vote oviously tending to colonize eastern of New Apolyton, I suggest an option for building it west, since east hasnt been explored yet, and we can see a large field of fungus. Maybe this field will happen to be larger than it seems, and thats why I suggest a "west" option.
Due to our large exploration of northern lands, and the strange technology we found there in some interesting monoliths, it could be a wise option too.

There for, this poll will have three options : North, West, And East. Please post also a specific tile (ie West : Now-NW of southern Nutrient tile to New Apolyton). Note that you dont have to post a specific location.

The Cp will then head for the direction which has the more votes, and will settle in the most popular tile amongst the ones selected.

Note that this poll allows multiple vote.
You can also post multiple precise tiles in the direction(s) you first chosen.

Example of a valid vote :
West : NorthWest NorthWest of the southern nutrient tile to New Apolyton
West : West Northwest of the southern nutrient tile to New Apolyton
North : North of norther monolith
East :


(OOC) I know it sounds quite complicated, but this is the best way I found to make it really democratic. Its far harder to poll for DoTC than to poll for DoScience. (/OOC)

Thanx for your attention.

LAST POLL RESULTS: on Sept. 13th, 2300CET

East :
3 votes
No specific votes

North :
3 votes
N-NE of the first monolith from New Apolyton to the North : 1 VOTE

West :
7 votes
NW-NW of the nutrient southern of New Apolyton : 2 VOTES
W-NW of the nutrient southern of New Apolyton : 2 VOTES

[Pandemoniak]

This poll will last three days.

[Lemmy]

here is my suggestion for west for the NA pod, and also some suggestion for the pod at TBIBTU.

The arrows show where the workers could be placed.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Quick, Pande! Take your opinions out of the first post before the ppl see!

[Lemmy]

yes, move them to your 2nd post

[Pandemoniak]

Hey ! I didnt mention my opinion anywhere... I havent even voted yet !!

[- Groucho -]

Damn!!!! I wanted to vote North West but I clicked North East through shear lack of coffee. What I wanted to say was we should put the mnext base between the two monoliths (which is essentially North North West of our current territory).

MY VOTE: Specifically, I think the base should be 1 square north and then one square diagonally north east from the lower monolith. That way the base's radius will cover both monoliths. It will mean we will need a different port on this coast, but this base should do well despite the lack of sea access due to the monoliths, the rainy squares and the river.

Strategically it will also help cut off the northern land mass, helping to prevent southern expansion by any foes that may lurk in that uncharted territory to the north.

[MrWhereItsAt]

How about 1 SW of the site near NA? That way we still get the nuts, the same number of non-fungus squares and there's no issue with base overlap with NA in the future.

As for the TBIBTU site - I llike.

MY VOTE Base 3 (NA CP) to the tile SW of the blue dot in Lemmy's map (SW, SW, SW, W of NA)
Base 4 (TBIBTU CP when finished) to the blue dotted tile on Lemmy's map that gets both Monoliths (NW, NW, W of TBIBTU)

EDIT:

Originally posted by Pandemoniak

I suggest an option for building it west....

[Pandemoniak]

Make sure you differ clearly your vote from your discussions.
ie type MY VOTE before you post your vote, that ll be easier for me to count all the votes after...

[- Groucho -]

I think I like the current plan better - sure there is overlap but we can reinforce the new city with foot soldiers in one turn from NA if we leave it in Lemmy's spot. Safety first!

[DeathByTheSword]

MY VOTE for TBIBTU they place right under the ? from lemmy chart and for NA I agree with lemmies idea

[moomin]

You gentlemen intend to go east sometime this mission century?

I vote east. I want that land bridge.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

W-NW of the nutrient tile just out of NA's range (or 1 SW of Lemmy's suggested spot-- so as to lessen the overlap).

As for TBIBTU's CP, go either SW or N of the monolith. (The SW-monolith site is quicker to reach; the N-monolith site appears to have better terrain.)

As for worker sites:

NA's CP: Work the nutrients, then a moist/rolling tile.
TBIBTU's CP: Monolith, then rolling/rainy tile.

[Method]

NA's pod goes south-west as lemmy's picture says, and then i have 2 suggestions for TBIBTU's pod.

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
Quick, Pande! Take your opinions out of the first post before the ppl see!

Originally posted by Pandemoniak

I suggest an option for building it west....

Im not giving my opinion, Im saying that because we have explored left and cant really see a nice tile to east, I will post the poll so that people can make up their choices according to the new informations we have on our environment.

Note also that this poll is only valid for New Apolyton's CP, since the CP in ThisBaseIsBelongToUs wont be ready before 15 years.

[Pandemoniak]

Originally posted by TKG

NA's pod goes south-west as lemmy's picture says, and then i have 2 suggestions for TBIBTU's pod.

Well, the picture you attached designs the same tile as Lemmy actually, NW-NW of the southern nutrient tile of New Apolyton.
But if you say SW of this tile, its W-NW of Lemmy's tile.

Can u plz let me know what u really want ?

I will try to keep the first post of this thread updated according to write-in options of votes.

[Method]

Originally posted by TKG
NA's pod goes south-west as lemmy's picture says,

perhaps i could rephase that

NA's pod goes south-west of NA, just like lemmy's picture suggested.

[Pandemoniak]

Ok.

[Lemmy]

here's a drawing with the base radii shown, green is how it was in my first drawing, and the red is the overlap, now if the NA pod would go one tile further to the southwest, there would be a lot less overlap, and i think we should do that, cos NA already has some overlap with TBIBTU, and could need more overlap with our base east to shut it off.
And as you can also see, the northen base has a lot of overlap, i think it would be best if the monoliths are divided between 2 bases, instead of 1. But this is still a few turns away like Pande said...

[Method]

good. i'd put the TBIBTU pod's base NW of the green dot though (provided it's not fungus or rocky of course)

[Makahlua]

My vote: The seaside monolith

Less overlap is good!

[MrWhereItsAt]

Lemmy - perhaps you should put MY VOTE somewhere in your posts to say which tiles you know want. That way all Pande needs to do as scroll down until he sees those very black letters and note what your vote is, skippikng all our spam discussion.

I am changing my vote above for the TBIBTU CP to

MY VOTE - delete the old one

NA CP - W-NW of sea nuts (same as before)
TBIBTU CP - SW of the farthest North Monlith (in Lemmy's last picture before this post)

UPDATED LIST (for Pande's benefit) as at the time of my post of the NA CP only
North
N-NE of the first monolith from New Apolyton to the North: 1 Vote (Echinda?)
SW of Northernmost Monloith:

West
NW-NW of the nutrient southern of New Apolyton: 1 Vote ( Echinda?)
W-NW of the nutrient southern of New Apolyton: 5 Votes (me, Lemmy, Vlad, Maniac, TKG, DBTS, Makahlua)

East
Unknown location: 1 Vote (moomin)

NOTE: it is uncertain whether Echinda (counted twice) means the TBIBTU Pod moves North or whether the NA one should do so.

[Maniac]

Though I would prefer going East, if that's not possible, I agree with Lemmy's suggestion: The NA pod to W-NW of the sea nutrients, the TBIBTU pod to SW of that northern monlith.

[Proserpine]

In the South, but 1 tile futher West

[Method]

no no, MWIA. change mine to the blue dot on lemmy's map, or W, NW of the nutrient bonus in the sea.

TBIBTU-SW, SW of the monolith

[DeathByTheSword]

my votelemmies second thingypicture but then instead of N go NE with the one of TBIBTU

[Makahlua]

Ooopsie, my bad - clarified for ya :

My vote : The seaside by the monolith for TBIBTU, and NA's to the second blue dot

Edit: Can I spell for? Apparently not!

[Pandemoniak]

*slaps his front with his hand* D'oh !

I will certainly have trouble when making the poll results...
Thanx MWIA for updating.

[MrWhereItsAt]

My post is updated, hopefully accurately.

[Schinkenjoe]

My Vote W-NW of the nutrient. ( Lemmys Second suggestion )