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View Poll Results: General Diplomacy -- How should we approach it?
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Homeland Diplomat Policy -- always have some on hand for defense
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Exploring Diplomat Policy -- send them out to explore and get embassies
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Nasty Diplomat Policy -- use them for city bribes and tech stealing
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No Diplomat Policy -- build Marco Polo's Embassy instead
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Banana Policy -- diplomats armed with bananas never lose in Civ2
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September 16, 2002, 09:52
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Deity
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Foreign Affairs, Part Ii
Let's offer King Hydey some general advice on how we would like our foreign affairs handled.
(We all know how much King Hydey loves his foreign affairs!! )
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September 16, 2002, 10:30
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It has never seemed to me that Dips do much in the way of defending. I say send them out to find other sivs and establish embassies.
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September 16, 2002, 11:36
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They are good on defense for 2 reasons.
1. Use them to bribe barbs, reducing need for defensive units in cities. Usually with a single bribed unit, you can defuse an entire barb invasion.
2. No upkeep costs -- critical in a representative govt.
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September 16, 2002, 11:38
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the science minister suggests using the diplomats to help close the technology gap that has opened
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September 16, 2002, 13:51
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
They are good on defense for 2 reasons.
1. Use them to bribe barbs, reducing need for defensive units in cities. Usually with a single bribed unit, you can defuse an entire barb invasion.
2. No upkeep costs -- critical in a representative govt.
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I agree about bribing barbs, and even incoming enemy units (which you did not mention). I was thinking in terms of against other Dips.
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September 16, 2002, 15:22
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I think stealing some techs would be a very good idea.
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September 16, 2002, 17:19
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Nasty diplomat policy
this sounds like music to my ears
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September 16, 2002, 17:40
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Looks like it's going to be hard to maintain a "peace and defense" approach if this is how we use our dips...
Your Foreign Minister strongly advises that we use diplomacy for exploration and defense.
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September 16, 2002, 17:48
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Re: Nasty diplomat policy
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this sounds like music to my ears
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maybe a little nuancation:
eg. if the japanese keep attacking and act agressively then I would have no problem letting our diplo's having some fun...
but if the play nice-->we do so to.
Shade
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September 16, 2002, 17:52
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That's better, Shade. Thx.
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September 16, 2002, 18:13
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Before trade I sometimes reach the delima of not wanting to support more troops or pay for city improvements, and the need to build something. So diplomats searve a purpose there, I have had armies of 15-20 diplos at my disposal and ransacked a attacking civ, and then some just hang arround and become spy's
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September 18, 2002, 06:04
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Tech stealing would be a good idea to close the gaps in some tech areas. I think bribing will not be such an important factor as I did remember from studying the screenies were are short on gold most of the time. Of course establishing embassies may also be a good idea but in the first instance we should use them to gain techs.
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September 18, 2002, 06:22
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I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one to understand the power of a bunch of Banana Diplos
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September 18, 2002, 09:38
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With Hydey's Camel Army, we will close the tech gap quickly without resorting to tech stealing.
Plus we'll be rich.
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September 18, 2002, 12:43
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
With Hydey's Camel Army, we will close the tech gap quickly without resorting to tech stealing.
Plus we'll be rich.
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And if we steal tech and get the wrong ones it will only slow our techrate down.
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September 18, 2002, 15:15
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Use your money on science instead of diplos.
We dont need them.
But Queen hydey chooses what to do with them and we all know what she wants...
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September 18, 2002, 17:25
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Originally posted by teic
Use your money on science instead of diplos.
We dont need them.
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I agree
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Originally posted by teic .....But Queen hydey..........
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ARE YOU INSANE!!!!! HOW DARE YOU INSLUT THE QU.. KING, (even if is a bit of a jackass...) AS FORMER PRES. (or dicktor), I SAID, OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!
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September 18, 2002, 18:09
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Originally posted by teic
But Queen hydey chooses what to do with them and we all know what he wants...
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Please , if you feel the need to slag off the King and call him Queen at least go all the way and say she instead of he.
the people begin to slag me off, it may well be time to hand control back to John.
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September 19, 2002, 06:04
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Originally posted by Hydey
Please , if you feel the need to slag off the King and call him Queen at least go all the way and say she instead of he.
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hehe a problem with consistency
do we still have to explore some polar regions???
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September 19, 2002, 14:17
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September 19, 2002, 19:29
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Originally posted by Hydey
the people begin to slag me off, it may well be time to hand control back to John.
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Please calm down, Sire, these petulant threats are beneath Your Majesty. May I remind the King that your idle Minister of War has some bored troops who would be delighted to assist their King in "re-educating" a quarrelsome Minister?
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September 19, 2002, 19:39
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Originally posted by cavebear
Please calm down, Sire, these petulant threats are beneath Your Majesty. May I remind the King that your idle Minister of War has some bored troops who would be delighted to assist their King in "re-educating" a quarrelsome Minister?
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Since when is teic a minister?
Or....is it me you are talking about?
*atawa starts spending massive funds to bribe our army *
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September 20, 2002, 04:34
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Originally posted by atawa
*atawa starts spending massive funds to bribe our army *
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There goes our taxes. Now we citizens know what the ministers do with all the gold they get from us: bribing armies and fighting among themselves little power hungry wars .
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September 20, 2002, 06:46
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the ministers are sreaming for more tax money
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September 20, 2002, 09:59
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September 20, 2002, 11:08
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