New CHAT system - Page 2

MarkG · September 26, 2002, 16:30

it was a bug martin, and it's fixed

also fixed is a bug with the colors of messages in the archive as well as a small fix in the navigation links

Martin Gühmann · September 26, 2002, 17:01

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkG
it was a bug martin, and it's fixed

also fixed is a bug with the colors of messages in the archive as well as a small fix in the navigation links

But only the second bug. Thanks anyway

Some obversations on the first bug: If I enter the chat room with Netscape 4.78 I get an empty page in full screen mode. Then I switch to another chat room and I get the full room , then I switch back I get the chat room I wanted to get first when I clicked on the full screen mode link.

-Martin

Martin Gühmann · September 26, 2002, 17:24

OK another observation: Afterwards I entered the chat with Netscape 4.78 and enabled cookies. I got first the empty box in full screen mode with the windows back ground color then I switshed to the CTP1/2 chat room, the room appeared as it should be, then I switched back to the Apolyton chat room everything normal. Then again to the CTP1/2 chat room the first the chat room loaded as normal, but then the part of the chat room with the text in changed to the windows background collor with bigger fonts. Afterwrds I went again to the Apolyton chat room Netscape 4.78 crashed.

I tried it three times.

-Martin

MarkG · September 26, 2002, 17:35

martin, could you please remind me what's wrong with mozilla and you're stuck in netscape 4?

Martin Gühmann · September 27, 2002, 09:26

It is true that Mozilla 1.1 feels more like Netscape 4.78, but there is something, dynamic fonts, the size of text fields is outside 'Poly not right, and that is also true for some on 'Poly. The address bar in Netscape 4.78 is longer. If I move the cursor over the stars that shows how a thread is rated then I see I many people rated the thread in Netscape 4.78, but this is missing in Mozzilla. And what's wrong with using two browsers at the same time so I can use there advantages.

Finnally you advertized the full screen mode of the chat as Netscape 4.78 compartible, so what's wrong with it if I test it and report some bugs.

-Martin

MarkG · September 28, 2002, 12:50

change

- last message in forums pages now show smilies and doesnt show commands(pm, etc)

tniem · September 29, 2002, 10:47

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Originally posted by Martin Gühmann
If I move the cursor over the stars that shows how a thread is rated then I see I many people rated the thread in Netscape 4.78, but this is missing in Mozzilla.

It's not missing, its just not being used. The correct command is "title" within the image, not "alt." "Alt" is a MSIE command that I guess Netscape uses as well in the early days. If "title" was used then all the browsers would be able to display the scroll over text effect.

Martin Gühmann · September 29, 2002, 12:02

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Originally posted by tniem
It's not missing, its just not being used. The correct command is "title" within the image, not "alt." "Alt" is a MSIE command that I guess Netscape uses as well in the early days. If "title" was used then all the browsers would be able to display the scroll over text effect.

Yeah Markos you should fix this. And I see now another bug if I use Netscape 4.78. It appeared in the last days: It doesn't load the costum avatars automaticly anymore. And by the way any progress to achieve the promissed Netscape 4.78 compartibility of the chat:

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Originally posted by MarkG here
Martin,

you can use the chat with netscape 4.7x in the "full screen mode"
http://apolyton.net/forums/shoutbox.php?

-Martin

MarkG · September 29, 2002, 12:19

if you find me a second user with netscape 4, i'll give it more priority...

MarkG · September 30, 2002, 08:28

additions

- Subject is shown on the title of the window
- Subject of main(Apolyton) room is shown in the forum pages and will notify of the next scheduled chat

-Jrabbit · September 30, 2002, 08:47

MarkG -- I have an interesting flaw re the new Chat function.

When at home, I'm on AOL/Mac. When I go to chat, all I can view is the most recent entry. No (viewable) history accrues -- it just goes offscreen as soon as a new entry is made.

This was also true in the old version chatroom.

This is not a big deal to me, as I use dial-up from home and don't use chat that often anyway. But it's frustrating enough that I would not participate in, say, a Demo Game turnchat under such conditions.

Thought you'd want to know...

MarkG · September 30, 2002, 09:01

hmmm AOL/Mac = which IE ??

MarkG · October 2, 2002, 10:55

additions

- moderated mode for rooms
- /voice and /unvoice commands for rooms in moderated mode

XarXo · October 2, 2002, 13:23

Hey, I tested the chat with the w3c Amaya browser under a Lindows 2.0 OS and the chat screen doesn't works properly

MarkG · October 2, 2002, 13:42

we need a :imgonnachaseyouwithalargehammer: smiley...

miccofl · October 2, 2002, 17:19

I have yet to use the new chat, mainly because I have noticed that whenever it is active (even if only one person is just sitting there hanging out) the rest of the forums, including the directory, become slower than Civ3 on a huge map with 1000 automated workers. With over 250 users in the forums and no-one in the chat room, things clip along at a decent pace, but as soon as one person enters chat; the error messages start appearing, pages won't load, replies fail etc. (even when the total in the forum is below 150.)

MarkG · October 3, 2002, 07:27

we've had(and might still have) some configuration issues with our server, unrelated with the addition of the chat room....

-Jrabbit · October 3, 2002, 08:47

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Originally posted by MarkG
hmmm AOL/Mac = which IE ??

Actually, I'm pretty sure that AOL's standard browser is Netscape-based. (Gee, Netscape a problem source... bet THAT's never happened here before...

)

Not at home now so can't really check. I will state for the record that, if this proves to be a Netscape 4-era browser, I will withdraw my complaint, knowing how idiosyncratic that can be. (At work, I use Netscape 4.5 when I'm trying to see if a Web function will break.)

Like I said in the original post, not a big deal. AOL may be the world's biggest ISP, but doesn't seem to contain a lot of Poly ppl...

miccofl · October 3, 2002, 08:49

Sorry, my mistake. Things have picked up since your maintenance shut-down today.

Martin Gühmann · October 3, 2002, 10:53

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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Not at home now so can't really check. I will state for the record that, if this proves to be a Netscape 4-era browser, I will withdraw my complaint, knowing how idiosyncratic that can be. (At work, I use Netscape 4.5 when I'm trying to see if a Web function will break.)

Cool a third Netscape 4.XX user.

But Actual I wanted to post about another problem:

Markos you inserted some text between "Live Chat:" and "Enter" on the top of the forum pages, unfortunatly it is very difficuilt to read, because you black as font color on a blue background in CTP2 forum style. Actual not chat related but the same problem is found on the forum start page you find there "Today's Birthdays" and "Today's Registrations:" in black on a blue background, too.

I used Netscape 4.78 to take that screenshot in Mozilla 1.1 you have blue fonts on blue background.

-Martin

tniem · October 3, 2002, 23:49

Quote:

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Actually, I'm pretty sure that AOL's standard browser is Netscape-based. (Gee, Netscape a problem source... bet THAT's never happened here before...

)

AOL has been using IE instead of Netscape for the last couple years. They are now thinking about going back because of the Mozilla project and AOL's ownership of Netscape. But depending on how old your version of AOL is, than maybe it is Netscape based.

SABRA · October 11, 2002, 15:50

MarkG what is a "lurker" ?

MarkG · October 11, 2002, 16:16

lurkers=people who havent posted a message in the last 50 messages

Martin Gühmann · October 12, 2002, 09:00

Just wonder why if I press on the Reduce the Shoutbox (at least that says the button if I move the cursor over it) button I go to the forum page index instead of returning to the smaller version of the shoutbox. I used Netscape 4.78, you don't have on this page the shoutbox but the links to the archives.

-Martin

Method · October 12, 2002, 11:10

mark->my userlist doesn't update. i have to refresh the page

(IE5.5)

XarXo · October 12, 2002, 14:33

Why not put the subject of the channel in the top of the chat area? put an:

in the top page body:

<input type="text" id="subject" readonly="1" value="SUBJECT: Kournikova joins 'Save Poly Kittens' Organization!" />

in the top page header (for example):

<style>
#subject
{
background: #CCCCCC;
}
</style>

With just: top.document.getElementById("subject").value = NewSubject; you can update it without redrawing.

MarkG · October 13, 2002, 14:21

xarxo, the subject is already in the title of the page

XarXo · October 23, 2002, 10:11

Yep, but I never read the title of the window, only when it loads the content. In a chat the window never reloads enterely, so I never read the title bar.

Also, the title bar is quite useless, in my Windows Taks Bar I only can see "Apolyt...". A great thing could be a small script that creates a marquee with the document.title, but could be really annoying.