What is this?

Hipshot · September 27, 2002, 11:48

Approval Rating
Disease (I know what it means

)
Military Service

what do they do and why do I always come like last on those ??? I always tries to make the perfect civ, but I keep the soldier numbers down until I go at war. and I always build everything possible before that happens...

Nikolai · September 27, 2002, 12:09

The approval rating tells you how much your people love you.
The disease, I really don't know exactly. It think it tells you how much sickness there are in your civ, but in what direction?

The military servise tells you how good your number of military units is when looking at the other civs.

vmxa1 · September 27, 2002, 13:13

I wonder if the disease rating has to do with the ratio of hosptials built? I am just guessing, but I have gotten the whole map cleared and RR and still see a non zero value. So I should not have any disease and some cities do not have hospitals as they are not worth it?

Ethelred · September 27, 2002, 13:58

Disease is affected by Jungles and Flood Plains. I don't know if its based on raw tiles or only worked tiles.

Military seems to be based on units versus population not dircectly on your standing vs other civs. You can have a huge army in comparison and still have a 2 year result. Highest I have can recall having is nine years. That was after I had build up a large military to expand to a much larger land mass.

N. Machiavelli · September 27, 2002, 15:04

As long as we're on the subject of Demographics, has anyone been able to maintain 100% Literacy in the medium-large population ranges (100+ citizens). I'll have a Library, University, Great Library (if that effects it at all), and Computer Lab in every city but never break a 99% cap.

Hipshot · September 27, 2002, 16:28

Well, if Approval was how much the citizens liked me I cant se why Im not the number one there... in the current game, I have never gone to war, and I make roads etc, u know just to make them like me...

vmxa1 · September 27, 2002, 16:34

Not me and in fact I slipped to last place for lit? I can only guess that it is due to my not making lib/uni/labs in all of my cities as when the game got very late, I found or capture a city and only put in a temple. As I did this my standing kept falling. I was first on all the stuff I liked, but mil/disease/lit and family size were not.
Mil service may be affected by making new units? The AI will at least have a few of the acient units around.

Hipshot · September 27, 2002, 17:56

Hmm... I wasent last on the Approval (must have misread) I was first...

The disease thing is strange, cause it says that I got 2% disease, only, but I am still at 8 place, and this is a easy game, I really dont think the computer got lower than 2% ... strange.

vmxa1 · September 27, 2002, 18:43

Well it can only be due to jungle/floods or tech or Hospitols. Since in my game I had all tech and no jungles uncleared, it was flood plains (I thought they were negated under those conditions) or Hospitols.

planetfall · September 27, 2002, 18:47

Quote:

Originally posted by N. Machiavelli
As long as we're on the subject of Demographics, has anyone been able to maintain 100% Literacy in the medium-large population ranges (100+ citizens). I'll have a Library, University, Great Library (if that effects it at all), and Computer Lab in every city but never break a 99% cap.

Seems to be hard coded to 2 digit number.

-- PF

N. Machiavelli · September 27, 2002, 18:48

It's probably an abstract of population/area, terrain, blah blah. The lowest I've ever had was 2%, but the computer has apparantly gotten in the negatives (-4%). What I don't understand is what this number is meant to represent. Does that mean that 2% of my population suffer from some sort of disease? The AI civ has 4% of it's pop immune?

N. Machiavelli · September 27, 2002, 18:54

Quote:

Originally posted by planetfall

Seems to be hard coded to 2 digit number.

-- PF

I'm pretty sure I've seen it at 100% before, but this is at a very small population (1 or 2 cities at pop 2-3 each) with all 3 improvments (was the remnants of an AI civ in the late game).

Now, Life Expectancy, even in modding I can't raise above 99 years; though I'm somewhat sure that you can get family size to more than 100 children.

Tuberski · September 27, 2002, 19:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Hipshot
Hmm... I wasent last on the Approval (must have misread) I was first...

The disease thing is strange, cause it says that I got 2% disease, only, but I am still at 8 place, and this is a easy game, I really dont think the computer got lower than 2% ... strange.

If it is like Civ 2, I bet it is. If all the other Civs are also at 2%, then the human player while tied for first place will be listed as 8th place.

planetfall · September 30, 2002, 10:45

Quote:

Originally posted by N. Machiavelli

I'm pretty sure I've seen it at 100% before, but this is at a very small population (1 or 2 cities at pop 2-3 each) with all 3 improvments (was the remnants of an AI civ in the late game).

Maybe it's a rounding thing then. I have checked with small number of cities. I know in a couple of games with more than 50 cities, and all 3 improvements in each and every city I could only get the number to 99.
Two strikes and civ3 demographics is out.
-- PF

Nikolai · September 30, 2002, 10:52

The literacy thing might be because of little, sweet babies...

Hipshot · September 30, 2002, 13:50

??? Little sweet babies??? what do you mean?

Nikolai · September 30, 2002, 14:18

Well, what I meant was that babies can't write. Just a joke.

Was it failed?

Inverse Icarus · September 30, 2002, 14:19

god damn perfectionist builders.

Nikolai · September 30, 2002, 14:21

Eh... What do you mean?

Hipshot · September 30, 2002, 16:38

Hehe, I really dint get that it was a joke

hehe...

UberKruX, perfectionism owns

Inverse Icarus · September 30, 2002, 17:09

in ptw, we'll see how long your "perfection" lasts when i come in, pillage everything, and raze your cities to the ground.

BWAAAAAHAHAHHAA

Hipshot · October 1, 2002, 03:16

Lets se how long _your_ civ lasts when my culture overflows your

bbaws · October 5, 2002, 14:35

Disease is inversely correllated to population density, ameliorated by aquaducts and hospitals. Ditto literacy but in respect of tech improvements. So low scores aren't necessarily a bad thing if you have a big lead in population. As far as the mlitary service thing I always aim to be last place on that demographic. The lower your ratio of military to civilians the greater your tctical ability (unless you just got cornholed). I'm sure the approval rating is a mixture of your pop's happiness and other civ's attitudes toward you (probably filtered through your own pop). All the important ones are unmentioned though.