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Old October 8, 2002, 20:36   #1
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orange meets Mr. Green himself, Ralph Nader
Saturday, at a small Unitarian Church at the west end of Newark, 250 Green Party supporters gathered together to support Vivian Houghton in her bid for State Attorney General, one of whom was Green Party Presidential Candidate and champion of anti-corporatism - Ralph Nader

Very good speaker, captivating, gave a great bit on the war in Iraq and the lack of crack down on white collar crime in America.

I got to meet him, shake his hand, and talk politics for a few minutes before he gave his speech. What an amazing night

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Did you thank him for electing Bush? I would have and genuinely meant it to.
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Old October 8, 2002, 20:41   #3
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I'd have to thank Rehnquist for that one, not Nader
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damn leftist Egyptian...
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Old October 8, 2002, 21:02   #5
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Or blame Gore for not being able to win his own state. If he'd done that, there would have been no hoopla in Florida.

But it is really necessary to rehash this two year old stuff?

Nader is in the long run good, because the more support the left gets, the less support the right gets. In the long run, I hope.
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Nader is in the long run good,
I think so to. I even hope he runs again.

PS The Real Ralph Nader
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Nader really needs to buy some new jackets and ties.
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Nader has no sight of the future and no idea on how to run an economy. I would take a bullet rather than have him president.

The left support in recent years has been crumbling... it is a cycle... but this time the left has been taking a big hammering. In Europe and the US...
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I dont understand how Nader can keep on going with ideas so balatantly anti-american... if the Green party ever rose to any prominence, there'd be a civil war... and it wouldnt be much of a war because the entire religious right, all of industry and business, the military, and every american with a gun... would all riot. the left has no power over a right-wing revolution
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Who is Houghton and why is Nader trying to scuttle that guy's career?
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Nader really needs to buy some new jackets and ties.
So I wasn't the only one thinking that.
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Hmmmm, the left has been pretty apt in performing violent actions before… French Revolution, Russian Revolution, etc.…

"damn leftist Egyptian..."
You guys do not even remotely understand how HARD this set me laughing! My roomates looked at me funny.
Also his parents are Lebanese, I think. If he weren't american he couldn't run for president *duh*.
I also saw Nader speak, and like Orange says, yes he truly has a powerful and captivating message.
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nice site, DinoDoc, but playing the stockmarket and hating dogs is nothing compared to what some politicians have. His message is clear, and it's a good one.
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the biggest Irony is that Speer's Dad is Lebanese
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And the family name originates from upper (southern) egypt...

in fact, the guy who made that "I Hate Israel" song that was popular in arab countries. He had the same last name as me... we might be distant cousins
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Good joke .
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Fortunetly most Americans do not.
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i think they just choose not to listen
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i think they just choose not to listen
They're too busy laughing to care.
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why? because a guy cares about the Environment, innocent people in other countries, and corporate criminals getting away with crime?

Three things our current President doesn't care about.
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why? because a guy cares about the Environment, innocent people in other countries, and corporate criminals getting away with crime?

Three things our current President doesn't care about.
People like that don't seem to do too well politically in your country for some reason I don't understand.

Have you moved to the left Orange?
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why? because a guy cares about the Environment, innocent people in other countries, and corporate criminals getting away with crime?
Seemingly he cares more about lining his own pockets and running his party as authoritarian as he can. For a man that speaks of democracy, he sure is heavy handed and totalitarian in the running of his party.

And I'd rather have a President that understands basic economics.
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And I'd rather have a President that understands basic economics.
Still waiting eh Imran
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People like that don't seem to do too well politically in your country for some reason I don't understand.

Have you moved to the left Orange?
moved to the left?

How long have I been a leftist now?

Imran - I definitely disagree with him on minimum wage policies...but hey...no one is perfect
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Bah! I almost joined the Green Party officially just to try to vote against him in the green primaries, I don't think he does the green party and favors, it should concentrate on grabbing winnable local elections rather than being a vehicle for Nader's ego.
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a sheltered suburban boy in college thinks he knows about the way the world is run... so he agrees with Nader...
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Bah! I almost joined the Green Party officially just to try to vote against him in the green primaries, I don't think he does the green party and favors, it should concentrate on grabbing winnable local elections rather than being a vehicle for Nader's ego.
He didn't run for President to get elected, he did it to get certain issues spoken about (and attempt to get 6% of the vote)

He didn't ACTUALLY think he stood a chance, but how are you going to get votes by saying "yeah, we won't win, but hey we'll sure get a voice out!"

Speer - I'd rather be me than some fascist moron who thinks that everyone who doesn't do exactly what you do is evil, and that a girl I've been chasing for 5 years, who doesn't like me, can't stand me, and in all likelihood hates me, is actually just playing hard to get.
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Nader is an authoritarian twit. For all the crap he spew's about civil liberties. He goes on to condemn Gun ownership free-market idea's.
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