Madrid More Livable than New York! - Page 2

Kramerman · October 10, 2002, 20:06

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84. Tianjin, China

From here on down may be 'nice' places to live, but really, does anyone have any desire to live in China or Peru or Vietnam or somethn? That is one major flawin this ranking system, they didnt seem to take into account the conditions of the country in which a city is located, among other factors.
I mean, I live in San Antonio, a pretty crappy place - poor, high crime rate, fat (i think we were rated the 3rd fattest city in the US, after Philodelphia and some other, but i dont recall), etc, etc, but I would much rather live here than any place in Vietnam or.... oh ..... my .... god... how da hell did this happen?!?!?!

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105. Mexico City, Mexico

Kman

KrazyHorse · October 10, 2002, 22:11

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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
look at the top 10 (or 8)

Europe: 7
Australia: 6
Canada: 3

USA: 0
Japan: 0

Australia 5

Austria does not equal Australia

Asher · October 10, 2002, 22:14

Calgary is only 16th? Pfft.

Nubclear · October 10, 2002, 22:22

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Originally posted by Kramerman

From here on down may be 'nice' places to live, but really, does anyone have any desire to live in China or Peru or Vietnam or somethn?

I recall someone from apolyton living in Shanghai China....

JCG · October 11, 2002, 00:43

I'd agree that Madrid was much more livable than New York...until I learned a few things this week.

Madrid now can go to where the sun doesn't shine, AFAIK.

Skanky Burns · October 11, 2002, 00:45

Sydney made it into the top 8!

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 00:57

NY is a very unlivable city.

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34. Atlanta, Georgia

Asher · October 11, 2002, 00:59

You're proud of that?

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:02

34th in the world for expatriates? Yeah, I'm proud of that

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Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:06

34 is a lot. Count it out.
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Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:12

Out of what, like 1 billion cities in the world? In that aspect 16 and 34 is statistically insignificant.

Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:15

How to Lie with Statistics 101
Required reading in Law, I'd bet.

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:17

Just because you can't admit it does mean it isn't true

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Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:18

1 Billion cities in the world?

Come on Imran, I realize you're in law but surely you have the logic and math skills to laugh at that number?

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:24

Um... it was an exaggeration, I did say 'like 1 billion'. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you never exaggerate numbers, Windows boy

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The fact is that 16 and 34 related to all cities in the world is statisically insignificant. Of course it is closer to 1,000,000 cities in the world, just change the underlying fact.

Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:25

So you don't take into account the differences of cities being in places like Uganda?

You'd think for being the wealthiest nation in the world more American cities would be up there.

The results would be a huge disappointment to me.

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:34

Why?

I should be dissapointed that our wealth is more spread around my country than being concentrated in certain areas like other countries?

That and the fact that we don't have universal health care, which is one of the factors which makes all US cities fall.

11 cities in the Top 50 is nothing to sneeze at.

And my city is tied for tops in the US.

Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:37

What an accomplishment. Buy a T-shirt:

Atlanta: 34th best city in the world!

Imran Siddiqui · October 11, 2002, 01:40

Like Calgary: 16th best city in the world is much better

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Asher · October 11, 2002, 01:42

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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Like Calgary: 16th best city in the world is much better

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I was disappointed.

But yeah, it's over twice as good.

The Emperor Fabulous · October 11, 2002, 01:59

Yeah Boston. Best city in the US (after Honolulu...but they're cheating)

Urban Ranger · October 11, 2002, 02:22

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
44. Madrid, Spain

44. London, England

I dunno.

Hong Kong ties with Madrid, yet it sucks pretty bad. What's more, Tokyo sucks even worse, but it ranks up high.

Urban Ranger · October 11, 2002, 02:26

If you got the money, you can live like kings in any city. While Vancouver is a very nice city, there's a pretty nasty downtown area. So I don't know from what viewpoint did CNN evaluate the cities.

Asher · October 11, 2002, 02:27

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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
If you got the money, you can live like kings in any city. While Vancouver is a very nice city, there's a pretty nasty downtown area. So I don't know from what viewpoint did CNN evaluate the cities.

Yeah, exactly. I don't take the list very seriously because I was seriously unimpressed with downtown Vancouver. Maybe it's far nicer outside of downtown...

Buck Birdseed · October 11, 2002, 05:28

Obviously my #1 factors (cosmopolitan atmosphere, variety of small quirky shops, nightlife) are not factored in or Oslo would never rate that high.

Saint Marcus · October 11, 2002, 06:45

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34th in the world for expatriates? Yeah, I'm proud of that

doesn't work that way. it's not a study of the 150 best cities in the world, it's a study of 150 important cities in the world. Port Moresby isn't the 150th best city in the world, it's just the worst city of those that have been studied.

Gangerolf · October 11, 2002, 06:45

Hey do you know how many pakistanis there are in Oslo?

Lots of small quirky shops too, nightlife? good but extremely expensive if you're not a teetotaller.

But seriously, if Oslo is #8, then the rest of the world must really suck.

Sikander · October 11, 2002, 07:22

52. New York, New York

54. (tie) Milan, Italy

54. Detroit, Michigan

God, Milan must be a real sh!thole.

Buck Birdseed · October 11, 2002, 09:49

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Lots of small quirky shops too

I spent three days scooting the length and breath of Oslo city centre looking for one, a single, independant record shop, of the kind there are probably 60-70 of in central stockholm, perhaps half that in Helsinki. In both places finding one is a doddle. Nothing, nothing whatsoever. Where do the cool bohemian norwegians hang out?

Urban Ranger · October 11, 2002, 09:54

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Originally posted by Saint Marcus
doesn't work that way. it's not a study of the 150 best cities in the world, it's a study of 150 important cities in the world. Port Moresby isn't the 150th best city in the world, it's just the worst city of those that have been studied.

Port Moresby is one of the top 150 important cities in the world?