Chironian News Network Issue Seven - Page 3

Archaic · October 21, 2002, 07:57

/me shoves the rod somewhere nasty, and gives Unskilled Labourer Pan a lashing over the back.

UN Peacekeeper Military Police. Attacking a citizen and an officer is punishable by loss of position. I'll see you in court this next Wednesday, or you'll be sentenced in absentia and sent to a Corrective Centre at UN Headquarters.

Pandemoniak · October 21, 2002, 08:07

Exactly : you're charged of many crimes, Archaic. Ill make sure I'll be your prosecutor.

Archaic will have his trial !

Archaic · October 21, 2002, 08:10

Oh yey. I'm accused of being a bastard on my own time, and using slightly strong language. Joy.

You on the other hand have potential murder charges (All those bodies of people who disagreed with you went in the Rec. Tanks, didn't they!), the assult charges, and numerous charges of wilfully disturbing the peace or causing the peace to be disturbed as a direct result of your actions. Oh yes, and defamation too.

Need I remind you also that you can't sit as a judge until you've got a clean slate and have no charges outstanding?

Pandemoniak · October 21, 2002, 08:26

:doitnow:

Archaic · October 21, 2002, 09:04

Someone add prostitution and engaging a prostitute to the list of charges against Unskilled Labourer Pan.

Method · October 21, 2002, 16:14

oh really. enough of this already!

Nubclear · October 21, 2002, 16:45

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Oh, and if you want to say I'm illogical, then damn well back up your statement instead of trying to put forth a lie as fact.

I think the people already know of your logic, especially when debating (Barring the personal attacks, red herrings, etc..Of course, youd never do that! Your above such petty human things...Also, in response to your logical, completly rational backed up by facts comment thanking me for proving i'm part of the LCD...Your welcome!

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Just look at our last debate during the former DoSE election for more juicy stuff

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Well DUH. A smart politician makes all sorts of promises he can't keep to get in the middle ground people, safe in the knowledge that the people at his party's extreme will vote for him anyway. I'm something far better than a smart politican. I'm an honest politician, who's also rather intelligent. Which would you prefer? That I used that intelligence to manipulate you, or that I stuffed the truth down your face no matter if you liked it or not?

If you want to get elected in a system where the PEOPLE vote, then you must encourage PEOPLE TO VOTE for you. Saying that you do not want their vote and still expecting to win is STUPID. Saying that you do not want their vote is STUPID.
A "rather intelligent" politican tries to get in touch with the people in order to get their votes, not trying to alienate them because you know what happens when the people do not like you? They do not vote for you. It is a simple fact of life. A fact that you apparently need to learn.

Archaic · October 21, 2002, 18:59

Personal attacks aren't a fallacy if they're showing the opponents inability to understand the factors involved in the debate, or have you forgotten that?
Red Herrings? If I've given one, why don't you show it instead of just saying I've given one, hmmmm?
If you want me to be above insulting you, then stop being so foolish, and stop goading me into it.
And you've phrased "i'm part of the LCD" . Or is there some sort of club of LCD's I'm unaware of?

I said I didn't want your vote because you obviously weren't willing to listen to reason about anything. You voting for me would have no meaning, because you'd be voting against someone else, not voting for my policies. THAT is why I don't want your vote.
Oh, and saying "A "rather intelligent" politican tries to get in touch with the people in order to get their votes" is just repeating what I said in a better light. A smart politician makes all sorts of promises he can't keep to get in the middle ground people, safe in the knowledge that the people at his party's extreme will vote for him anyway.

The fact of the matter is, even last time, I was still getting votes, proving at least that there are *some* rational people here. Judging from your inability to put reason over emotion on an issue where emotion has no place, I don't think you'll ever be one of those.

Nubclear · October 21, 2002, 20:45

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=1

Mr. President · October 21, 2002, 22:06

This is really getting to be too much. I read what you posted in the Social Engineering thread, Archaic, and if your idea of debating is telling people to "Read my post for once moron" I think it's worth seeing what the staff have to say.

Hercules · October 21, 2002, 22:14

Just an interesting titbit for the news:

Citizen Maniac seems to have visited the Cloning Vats.

This secret facility seems to get visited by an ever increasing number of people. eg reports of Archaic' s demise seem greatly exaggerated. The Cloning Vat offers an explanation. Archaic is either Archaic mark 2 or the clone Archaic mark 2 was the version 'murdered' by Pande.

I have to say that having witnessed the bizarre behaviour in the Rec Comms recently, I beginning to conclude maybe there are more clones around than I first thought.

Re Maniac clone, check citizens register for proof.

Frankychan · October 21, 2002, 23:22

I think we should have more clones of Frankychan.....

Guys, calm down or else DBTS and DE are gonna have to get medieval. That, and DE is thinking of going on hiatus so please, take it easy?

Frankychan · October 21, 2002, 23:25

Oh crud, Inspector Hercules!

*runs away*

GeneralTacticus · October 22, 2002, 03:17

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Personal attacks aren't a fallacy if they're showing the opponents inability to understand the factors involved in the debate, or have you forgotten that?

Personal attacks show nothing except your extreme displeasure unless you can actually back them up with evidence. And no, disagreement with your position is NOT evidence.

GeneralTacticus · October 22, 2002, 06:27

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Someone add prostitution and engaging a prostitute to the list of charges against Unskilled Labourer Pan.

News flash, Archaic: there's no law against prostitution.

Archaic · October 22, 2002, 07:45

Thank you for proving my point Tass. Of the 30 people who voted, 13 proved themselves rational by voting for me instead of putting emotions first in an issue where emotions play no part. Concession Accepted.

I backed it up. He didn't understand the material we were talking about, and made completly incorrect statements. That's enough evidence.

And I think you'll find that while it's not in some of the states of old Australia, it is up here in Chiron. I'm the MP, remember?

Maniac · October 22, 2002, 17:34

Hercules, the fact that there are two Maniacs registered is a bureaucratic error. However I don't deny I could have unofficial clones running around...

Nubclear · October 22, 2002, 17:38

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Originally posted by Archaic
Thank you for proving my point Tass. Of the 30 people who voted, 13 proved themselves rational by voting for me instead of putting emotions first in an issue where emotions play no part.

Oh my...you still have a LOT to learn about debating and politics.....a lot

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Concession Accepted.

You assume much.....

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I backed it up. He didn't understand the material we were talking about, and made completly incorrect statements. That's enough evidence.

Thats your opinion. Saying "Thank you for proving yourself to be in the LCD" or something of that nature is NOT proof. Unless "Archaic, your a dumb@$$" is proof that you are one.

Pandemoniak · October 22, 2002, 17:46

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Archaic, your a dumb@$$

I concur

Archaic · October 22, 2002, 19:36

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Oh my...you still have a LOT to learn about debating and politics.....a lot

As do you. Learn that if one has to resort to playing on the audiences emotions to win, he has already conceeded the debate.

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
You assume much.....

As do you.

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Originally posted by Tassadar5000
Thats your opinion. Saying "Thank you for proving yourself to be in the LCD" or something of that nature is NOT proof. Unless "Archaic, your a dumb@$$" is proof that you are one.

You made incorrect statements about the issue at hand. That's not an opinion, that's a statement of fact. As for what you think of me, I think I've already made a point of saying I couldn't give a damn.
And perhaps you should learn how to use "LCD" in a sentance. It's not a club or organisation. It's a strata. "Lowest Common Denominator".