October 22, 2002, 17:51
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Hitler was responsable for Germany economic revival too. 
and pinochet would be tried for crimes against humanity if it wasn't for his poor health
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October 22, 2002, 17:54
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Hitler was responsable for Germany economic revival too.
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And its collapse while Pinochet did not cause any collapse to his country.
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October 22, 2002, 17:58
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so if Hitler didn't trigger WW2, he would have been a good guy?
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October 22, 2002, 18:04
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Nope. Never claim he was either way. He was a fool in my opinion.
Also don't try to speak for other people... that is incredibly annoying and shows what kind of person you really are.
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October 22, 2002, 18:05
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ditto for you fezmeister
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October 22, 2002, 18:24
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My favourite dictator 
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And notifying the next of kin
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October 22, 2002, 18:28
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LOL PRICELESS
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October 22, 2002, 18:47
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October 22, 2002, 18:48
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Stupid. Very stupid.
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Lets face it. We flamiing queers have more appeal then Pat Robertson and other religious wackos. We have shows that are really growing in popularity. We have more channels (Q TV, Logo Channel). And we help people in their style issues (Queer Eye for the Straight Guy). The last thing I saw a religious preacher did was ask for $5 in a "generous pledge" to help his bank account in Zurich, erhm, some starving kids in Zimbabwe.
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October 22, 2002, 19:26
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Awww diddums
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October 22, 2002, 19:44
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the people there wanted to try Pinochet for crimes against humanity...that says enough.
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Of course Pinochet pissed off lots of his own people. There were even many Americans who were convinced that Abraham Lincoln was the brother of Satan. The point here is: what do the majority of Chilean people think of Pinochet?
A similar case could be made for Napoleon. His aggressions killed far more people than Pinochet, and yet French people worshipped in the Dome of Invalide.
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October 22, 2002, 20:03
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I don't identify with any brutal dictators, I identify with the brutalized serfs, although I do admire the young Napoleon, before he crowned himself.
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October 24, 2002, 06:59
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Of course Pinochet pissed off lots of his own people. There were even many Americans who were convinced that Abraham Lincoln was the brother of Satan.
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For completely different reasons.
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The point here is: what do the majority of Chilean people think of Pinochet?
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Don't know. Do you? (and before Fez posts here that he knows, I'd like to see a source)
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A similar case could be made for Napoleon. His aggressions killed far more people than Pinochet, and yet French people worshipped in the Dome of Invalide.
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A. Napoleons agression wasn't targetted at french civilians. Others were responsable for that.
B. Napoleon mainly killed foreign soldiers
C. Napoleon conquered a vast empire, and was personally responsable for some of the most brilliant military victories ever. Pinochet did no such things.
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