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View Poll Results: Have you ever completed a SMAC/X PBEM game? How many?
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October 22, 2002, 07:48
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Prince
Local Time: 10:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Jan 2002
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Have you ever completed a SMAC/X PBEM game?
Have you ever completed a SMAC/X PBEM game?
How many?
I'm still relatively new to PBEM's, and I'm only involved in 4, but considering they've all stalled out to, at the absolute best, 1 turn/week... I have to wonder if anyone's ever completed one of these PBEM games?
If you have, did they involve people that had been invited? By a quick mind boggle, that's the only way I figure a game might complete.
Give me hope, people
Cheers.
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Last edited by duMa; October 22, 2002 at 07:55.
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October 22, 2002, 12:39
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Deity
Local Time: 03:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: With a view of the Rockies
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There IS hope although I have found that games move slower now than they did a year ago and people are less apt to be apologetic for delays.
I have finished over 10 Pbem games and have only had one that did not get completed. The key to getting a game that actually finishes is to find the right players. I have several people that I know to be both reliable and fast and I tend to try now to play combinations of those people . -- I have had games that did 100 turns for each of 4 players in just over 100 days. ( I believe we did the first 4 or 5 years in a couple of hours when we all happened to be online)
The other thing is I think that any more than 4 players is a mistake. Somebody commented once that turnaround time is an exponential function of the number of players and I have found that to be pretty accurate. 7 player games are glacial IMHO.
I am completely frustrated with the slow pace of some of my games but have recently given up on chasing them down anymore. If an old game makes its way to me, I will keep it going but my interest in it is way down.
If you want a taste of a real fast-paced game ( by PBEM standards) try a duel with someone
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October 22, 2002, 13:48
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King
Local Time: 04:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Harrisburg,PA USA
Posts: 2,244
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I've finished at least a score of pbems, not counting 1:1 games. I've had about that many die, too.
Flubber's right, having the right players is the key. As a general rule, he is also right about seven player games. BUT...when you can keep them moving, there is simply no comparison to games with fewer players.
I was spoiled early on. My first ever pbem was a seven player affair thrown together on the old Alpha.owo boards. Using time warp start (yech!) we completed the game in 15 or 16 months...~ 120 turns played. Additionally, only one player had to be replaced, because of moving across Canada and no ready internet access in the new abode.
I think that game remains the most fun I ever had in pbem.
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October 22, 2002, 22:14
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Emperor
Local Time: 11:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: west of Paradise
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I've finished a bunch & have had heaps fizzle & die; about 50% I'd say. 7 player PBEM's are possible but as Mong says, glacial is perhaps an understatement of their speed. The worst sort of games are the ones which take a long time to finally die.
Hobbes
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October 25, 2002, 18:09
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Chieftain
Local Time: 09:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 35
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Quote:
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Originally posted by Flubber
( I believe we did the first 4 or 5 years in a couple of hours when we all happened to be online)
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A couple of hours for 4-5 turns is still long time...Yesterday I played say 70-80 turns on 4-5 hours..the first 50 on 2― playing IP-online in real time. Its fast, its exiting and yuo donīt get bored. I donīt know with you guys but I donīt have the passions to wait 10-18 months for a game to finish...its simply too long time.
If any of you guys want to try IP-Online-Real time play then mail me....We are a couple of guys playing already..thinking about starting up a tournament if wee gets enough. We plan to play the first 70-80 turns on one or two days/evenings/nights and if the game isnīt settled yet, to keep playing on by PBEM as the turns takes longer to play.
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October 25, 2002, 18:49
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Deity
Local Time: 03:42
Local Date: November 1, 2010
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: With a view of the Rockies
Posts: 12,242
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Originally posted by ksev
A couple of hours for 4-5 turns is still long time...Yesterday I played say 70-80 turns on 4-5 hours..the first 50 on 2― playing IP-online in real time. Its fast, its exiting and yuo donīt get bored. I donīt know with you guys but I donīt have the passions to wait 10-18 months for a game to finish...its simply too long time..
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I also had games where we whipped off 20+ turns through IP before switching to PBEM as well. PBEM is always slower but I was trying to show that there is hope . . with reliable players you can average about a turn a day EACH and finish a game inside 4 or 5 months
Back when I had a number of fast games, getting the turn once every day or two days was quite enough , particularly if the turns were longer to play as the game was involved. I am in about a dozen games so the idea is if one is slow, the others are coming around . . . but lately I have been very frustrated with PBEM as I have had several times where NO TURNS AT ALL in any game came for 2-3 days.
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