ww2 philippine invasion scenario - Page 2

H Tower · October 31, 2002, 19:50

about the subs: Whoops, guess I wasn't paying much attention

jim panse · October 31, 2002, 21:33

to case: on a certain page in the www (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/USA-P-PI/USA-P-PI) you may find out - just as i did - that there were some 75mm guns deployed to the philippines.

"These reinforcements reached MacArthur before the end of September. The arrival of the 200th Coast Artillery Regiment (AA) gave him 12 additional 30-inch guns, 24 37-mm. guns, and a similar number of machine guns. Armored reinforcement consisted of the 192d and 194th Tank Battalions each with 54 tanks. And he could count on 25 more 75-mm. guns on self-propelled mounts (SPM) already en route and due to arrive in Manila on 15 October." (taken from the page i´ve talked above)

i don´t want to offend you and your knowledge but believe me: i (mostly) think about what i´m doing (also when i´m designing some units or stuff like it....)

that´ll be all for now

Case · November 1, 2002, 00:30

Yeah, they were 75mm howitzers not AT guns. The two weapons were very different beasts.

Here's a picture:

jim panse · November 1, 2002, 08:25

i guess we may call this a compromiss?!

H Tower · November 1, 2002, 13:55

not a whole lot of need for 75mm antitank guns, japanese tanks were few and far between, not to mention light tanks anyways

tanelorn · November 1, 2002, 15:53

Quote:

Originally posted by jim panse
to tanelorn: let me add one other thing at least: i´m looking forward to create an epic scenarion of one of the turning points in the pacific theatre: the battle of Guadalcanal during my x-mas holidays. may i recall then to use some of your beautiful planes for this gigantic battle?!

Be my guest. I 'll keep adding stuff I make to Case's thread. I 've already done some more Japs.

Case · November 1, 2002, 18:22

Quote:

Originally posted by jim panse
i guess we may call this a compromiss?!

Wow - that's a fantastic unit!

tanelorn · November 1, 2002, 22:09

Wow, too!

jim panse · November 3, 2002, 10:59

some kind like this i imagine the japanese landing in the Lingayen gulf on dec. 22nd, 1941.

covered by a far support group consisting of the Haruna and the Kongo, the main japanese landing forces begin attacking the allied positions in the gulf of Lingayen.

playable should be both civs, the USAFFE and the Japanese 14th Army.

till later

Stefan Härtel · November 3, 2002, 11:08

Hm... prior to reading this thread, I've always asked myself who the hell McArthur was

I still don't know what was so special about him, but now I've at least got an idea who he was, when he lived and what he did.

The ANZAC · November 3, 2002, 11:11

Is it just me or do the fronts of the ships look cut off

Case · November 3, 2002, 18:16

Yeah, they look cut off to me as well.

BTW, here's an M3-Stuart made by Jimmywax

tanelorn · November 3, 2002, 19:15

Quote:

Originally posted by jim panse
some kind like this i imagine the japanese landing in the Lingayen gulf on dec. 22nd, 1941.

Great!
But:
Somehow I dont think that the flying dragon (Ki 67 Hiryu "Peggy") was even on the air before 12/7/1942. Even so, it was not operational till 1944.
DarthVeda has a "Sally" on the Kiokitsu thread.

Pap1723 · November 3, 2002, 22:05

Your ships look like they may be a little too long, and they go below the diamond, but I don't really know.

Possible alternatives for the Ki-67 Hiryu is the G4M Betty Bomber or the B5N Kate Torpedo Bomber.

I doubt you'll use the Torpedo Bomber, but those were the main bombers for the Japanese at the time, if you need the graphic to the G4M I have one made by DarthVeda that I am using in my 2194 scenario.

Pap

tanelorn · November 3, 2002, 23:04

About the G4M "Betty", aircraft were not delievered to squadrons till April 1941. In my mind "Betties" are linked with the Solomon islands campaign, August 1942. What about the G3M "Nelly" that sunk the "Repulse" & "Prince of Wales"?
BTW, I have posted more Jap bombers at "Graphics Showcase" during the weekend.

jim panse · November 4, 2002, 03:41

jep, you all were right. some stupid beginner mistake

that´s fixed by now. today i´m also going to replace the ki-67 by a g3m nelly because of the things you mentioned.

i´m also thinking of creating the bataan/corregidor battle as an appendix to the philippine scenario because on my philippine map bataan is far to small.
what do you think about?

H Tower · November 4, 2002, 12:35

you mean two scenarios?

I think Case's suggestion of doing just Luzon Island is better, but since you've done all this work already...

jim panse · November 4, 2002, 13:11

let me see what i´ve got for you now.

1st. a list of the units i´ve replaced since the first posting of the units.gif file:

- M3 Grant Medium Tank - replaced by an US Freighter
- P40 Warhawk - replaced by a G3M "Nelly" Bomber(thanks to tanelorn)
- P38 Lightning - finally replaced by a M3 75mm GMC
- K-67 Bomber - IJN Escort Carrier

2nd. down there you can see the US positions a couple of days before the japanese landings.

our_man · November 5, 2002, 06:37

This looks fantastic jim!

How long do we have to wait?

jim panse · November 5, 2002, 06:42

also to my own concern, as long as it takes me to fix my troubles with this damn event.txt file

Pavlov · November 5, 2002, 12:27

Could you soften up the border on the swamp and jungle terrain? They look a bit too sharp right now. Also the heavy guns could be mirrored so they point out to sea and not inland.

Otherwise it looks great.

DarthVeda · November 5, 2002, 12:35

Although I can't see under those two infantry, I'm pretty sure Bataan is even more rugged than you have depicted (There are two mountains on that peninsula IRL, Mt. Nazib and Mt. Bataan).

Otherwise what I've seen so far looks pretty good.

H Tower · November 5, 2002, 13:33

Bataan really isn't big enough in my opinion. there could be so many intresting events that just won't work with such a small peninsula. Afterall, the battle for the luzon lasted a short time, but the battle for bataan lasted a lot longer.