November 2, 2002, 16:59
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Chieftain
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Ruins
In my current game, I see that the Zulu have several ruins on their land. Has anyone figured out if they do anything? Can the be "cleaned" like pollution?
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November 2, 2002, 17:30
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They don't do anything , but you can settle right on top of one 
No need to clean them up.
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November 2, 2002, 17:38
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I think I've seen ruins destroyed by the ai-pillaged cause was on an iron supply w/road
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November 2, 2002, 18:52
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Ruins can be left behind when you capture a size 1 city. I did a few and it leaves ruins ala Warlords. As was said you can send a settler over to create a new city as if it never existed.
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November 2, 2002, 18:56
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They also occur if you raze a captured city.
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November 2, 2002, 18:58
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also by abandoning
too bad they don't give a bonus of any type
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November 2, 2002, 19:07
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Could it be an idea to give some benefits like extra gold(tourism) or starting buildings/cheaper buildings of previously built ones in that city, if you found a new city on top of it? 
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November 2, 2002, 21:31
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I think a tourism (+ gold) for ruins would be cool, maybe like +5 per turn for each ruin you have within your borders or something.
Also, just as a side-note with razing cities...I think your population should become very unhappy, and your enemy's pop. too when you raze one of their cities. Slaughtering the citizens of a city...especially when size 20+  , should make at least one person pissed.
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November 2, 2002, 21:34
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Originally posted by Mr. Schwang
I think a tourism (+ gold) for ruins would be cool, maybe like +5 per turn for each ruin you have within your borders or something.
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I can see it now: a strategy where you build settlers to just abandon their cities in the grid of another city
It would be cool to get a benefit of them.
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November 2, 2002, 22:08
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Well actually in 3000bc, people did not get upset about killing or razing. Do not put todays values on the past, it does not fit.
I would not mind it the ruins could be rebuilt with an engineer that was available with settlers and need only 1 pop.
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November 2, 2002, 22:54
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Originally posted by vmxa1
Well actually in 3000bc, people did not get upset about killing or razing. Do not put todays values on the past, it does not fit.
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You've been watching too many Conan movies. 
Sure they did, especially if they were the ones gettin' killed and razed...
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November 2, 2002, 23:01
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Originally posted by vmxa1
I would not mind it the ruins could be rebuilt with an engineer that was available with settlers and need only 1 pop.
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now that sounds like an interesting idea. would certainly help with the scorched earth warfare.
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November 2, 2002, 23:53
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well as late the middle ages people would make mass executions and beheadings. The citizen got upset when they lost, not when they damaged others.
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November 3, 2002, 03:31
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I right-click to find what's underneath the ruins. If you mine or irrigate the tile, the ruins disappear.
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