November 4, 2002, 17:25
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NewzUpdates?
Something came to mind when thinking on this.
The gOdZ expect newZupdates. What are we going to provide? Some information people may not want to get out, especially before we meet each other.
So, what information is going to be shared, and what shall be included from each tribe in the newZudate?
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November 4, 2002, 17:29
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Most of what's been accomplished includes the establishment of teams, and the setup of basic polls (map, # of teams, etc.). I'd write something up, but I'm lazy.
Okay, nevermind, I'll write something up.
Alright, the message is sent.
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November 4, 2002, 17:53
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No, I am talking once we get running, what are the teams willing to provide for this? We cannot be submitting our plans like we were in the C3DG
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November 4, 2002, 17:56
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We'll probably only be able to give updates on what's already happened in the game that's well known, like wars between humans, etc. Beyond that, the updates will most likely be rather slim.
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November 4, 2002, 18:00
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wrong/misleading info, is a very powerfull tool
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November 4, 2002, 18:18
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Originally posted by alva848
wrong/misleading info, is a very powerfull tool
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Thats what I was thinking about. We could even go so far as to only trade maps in JPEG format so that they may be edited for content. Why should we have to allow another civ full knowledge of our resources, luxuries, weaknesses, etc? We can censor what we give them so as to protect strategic information... especially against those Glory of War people
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November 4, 2002, 18:22
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Originally posted by ruby_maser
We can censor what we give them so as to protect strategic information... especially against those Glory of War people
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HA!!! Look! The're already afraid of us!
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November 4, 2002, 18:39
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Originally posted by donegeal
HA!!! Look! The're already afraid of us!
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No, just wary that you all might come around, bothering our women and stealing our chickens.
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November 4, 2002, 18:44
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And you think that hiding that little stash of Iron or that little town over there will make you less of a target because...?
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November 4, 2002, 18:48
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Because that little stash of iron over there by that little town may spawn an army of legions to march upon your capitol.
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November 4, 2002, 18:52
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Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
And you think that hiding that little stash of Iron or that little town over there will make you less of a target because...?
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I figured y'all were gunning for everyone anyway; in such a case as that, I don't think there is anything a team can do to avoid being targeted. Regardless of whether we had a warmonger team or not, I think it is in the best interest of every nation to protect strategic information. Stands to reason that, if you can, you should.
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November 4, 2002, 19:30
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Are we being asked to do a report for each team, or one for the game in total?
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November 4, 2002, 19:49
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Just for the game overall, not each team. Though, how we do that I'm not quite sure. At least the first one was pretty easy.
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November 4, 2002, 22:05
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I think each team should issue press releases when they have something to say.
Someone involved can give an an account of the tides of war.
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November 5, 2002, 00:56
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Each team could appoint a "public affairs representative" who could work with their team's leadership to determine what to release and how to release it...
Simple as that.
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November 5, 2002, 17:05
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And maybe someone like catt ,or FP could make/build it into a story for Mark to use?
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November 5, 2002, 21:43
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Originally posted by Arnelos
Each team could appoint a "public affairs representative" who could work with their team's leadership to determine what to release and how to release it...
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This public affairs representative sould also act like a propaganda minister.
What I think is that there should be a central forum that teams can converse with each other. Known facts (such as wars) can be discussed here. The key is that any team can say anything they want (including flat out lies). This would emulate true foreign relations. Of course, when the lies are found out, the civ won't get very popular, etc...
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November 6, 2002, 06:26
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Originally posted by Panzer32
This public affairs representative sould also act like a propaganda minister.
What I think is that there should be a central forum that teams can converse with each other. Known facts (such as wars) can be discussed here. The key is that any team can say anything they want (including flat out lies). This would emulate true foreign relations. Of course, when the lies are found out, the civ won't get very popular, etc...
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A MIS-information campaign could do wondrous things at some crucial moments...
Representatives from each race sound good, and a public affairs person from each team would definetely make things more interesting from a role play point of view, as far as a newspaper is concerned, which is what I think Unorthodox was getting at as well...
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November 6, 2002, 06:35
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Originally posted by alva848
And maybe someone like catt ,or FP could make/build it into a story for Mark to use?
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catt's better than me.
/me tries to escape alva volunteering him for this.....
seriously, though, when our team has something exciting to talk about (such as completely crushing everyone else ) then I'll write it up.
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November 6, 2002, 06:37
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Originally posted by Panzer32
What I think is that there should be a central forum that teams can converse with each other.
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You're posting in it now.
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November 8, 2002, 19:37
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I think there should be a seperate forum for the polls and stuff and then a forum for all the teams to talk (like this one). Cause all the polls make the place so cluttered.....
I like the idea of mis-information campaigns. Could be interesting....
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November 8, 2002, 19:49
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Originally posted by alva848
And maybe someone like catt ,or FP could make/build it into a story for Mark to use?
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btw: Catt , has turned the job offer down
(due too lack of time)
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November 8, 2002, 19:54
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Originally posted by jordie
I think there should be a seperate forum for the polls and stuff and then a forum for all the teams to talk (like this one). Cause all the polls make the place so cluttered.....
I like the idea of mis-information campaigns. Could be interesting....
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Don't worry, the clutter due to polls should end shortly, once all game settings have been decided... Since most polls will be handled within the teams (and their secure forum), we'll see almost only regular threads on the common forum.
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November 10, 2002, 07:03
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Yer there will prolly be a lot of missleading info.. but thats just a part of the game, information always been the true way to victory.. and countries tried to plant false info or trick their opponents throught history.. and yes history will be written afterwards not before
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November 10, 2002, 11:08
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This all works for me. Some ideas on the Public Affairs representative position:
This post can be either an extension of the Foreign Ministry from each team or can be appointed within a team by the FAM, but whoever does this job will want to be careful not to release any information in press reports that can turn out to be negative for his team.
There shouldn't be any requirement for a press officer though, either. If a team chooses to release statements to an 'independant journal' (which I foresee as being similiar to the Gazette in C3DG) then there should be nothing to prevent them from doing so. But if a team prefers to remain isolationist in it's comments then that should not be a problem either.
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