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			anyone want to play ?, reply here if interested.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 4, 2002, 23:37
			
			
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			Me, I think.  What are the game settings?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 09:09
			
			
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			I was thinking a nornal game, standard size,3 - 5 players, maybe an AI or two. 
 
 
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			November 5, 2002, 10:14
			
			
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			Sounds fine to me.  I'm easy.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 11:13
			
			
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			I would like in.  What were you thinking for the difficulty level?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			November 5, 2002, 11:36
			
			
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			prolly make the AI's easy or the next one up unless anybody has any objections. 
right, just need one or two more players, everyone who wants in should post their email address and preferred Civ
 andy.burchill@softhome.net
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also post your location and timezone if you know it, I am in the UK, GMT (this is so we can work out the quickest order of players)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 11:50
			
			
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			I might would prefer something closer to regent or monarch but I'll wait to see what others have to say. 
My email is  ruby_maser@hotmail.com.  I'm in the US, Central Standard Time (CST).
 
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			November 5, 2002, 11:58
			
			
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			feaelin@kemenel.org (e-mail)   
My current favorite civ is Celts, but I'm not picky.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 12:45
			
			
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			Got space for one more?   
I'd like carthage.  My email is  morristm@nospam.bellatlantic.net
(Drop the nospam. from the e-mail to get my true e-mail address) 
 
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			November 5, 2002, 12:49
			
			
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			EPS, you need to start determining the game parameters.  Are we talking random everything or typical settings? 
 
I've never done accelerated production, but I'm open to trying it. 
 
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			November 5, 2002, 12:57
			
			
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			Basically in accelerated production the "boxes" are all smaller.  (The values of the terrain don't change)  Research is cheaper.  It interacts in a funny way with the easier difficulty levels, where the boxes are already smaller, so if we choose it, we'd probably want to run regent or better.   
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			November 5, 2002, 13:03
			
			
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			ok here goes, if anyone disagrees with these then feel free to post what you would like 
 
game mode : standard 
 
turn timer : normal (this shouldn't affect a PBEM game shoudl it ?) 
 
world size : standard 
 
barbarian activity : sedentary (this is how I always play but I am open setting it differently) 
 
land mass : may be we should have vote ?, randomn is fine, I wouldn't mind continents either tho 
 
water coverage : randomn 
 
climate temp and age : randomn 
 
difficulty : regent  
 
I would like to play a game with out accelerated production if everyone is ok with that, realise it will take longer but still, may be we vote on this as well 
 
remember to post your location and timezone, I am hoping to get at least a turn a day (hopefully) 
 
we have got 4 players, shall we lock the game now ?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:06
			
			
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			oh yeah i was gonna allow all kinds of victory, everyone ok with that ?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:15
			
			
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			I'm happy with all the settings.  I think all the weather/terrain options should be random...makes it more interesting in the early/exploratory parts...you don't know if you're stuck on a tiny island, or a vast continent or something in between.   
"All Victory Conditions" means all the "normal" ones, not the elimination/princess/victory points/regicide ones, right?
 
My timezone is US-Central Standard Time (UTC -6). 
 
I'm guessing Eps is on GMT/UTC or UTC +1?  Putting you about 6-7 hours ahead of me.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:16
			
			
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			sounds fine with me... I might like some barbarian activity but everything looks good to me.  I'm cool with no accelerated production if that is what you were originally intending, and as for locking the game, thats up to you; we could always let one or two more, but that may slow things down abit. 
 
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			November 5, 2002, 13:17
			
			
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			yeah all normal victory conditions 
 
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			I'd be happy with four.  3-4 AI-civs?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:20
			
			
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			leave it open for one more until gyromancer confirms he is happy with the settings, if no comes before then I say we just start
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:21
			
			
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			lets vote on how many ai civs we want, I say 2 or 3
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:24
			
			
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			November 5, 2002, 13:30
			
			
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			as of now, we've got: 
 
Eps- GMT "andy.burchill@sofhome.net"  ROME 
Gyromancer- EST "morristm@bellatlantic.net" CARTHAGE 
Feaelin- CST "feaelin@kemenel.org" CELTS 
Ruby_maser- CST "ruby_maser@hotmail.com" EGYPT 
 
Look right? 
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			November 5, 2002, 13:35
			
			
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			These settings will be fine.  I vote for 3 AI.  (Randomly chosen of course)  I'm in the Eastern Time Zone, and, on the weekdays, I will generally be able to check for turns in the evening (say 7pm to 11:30 or so) and the early morning (6:00AM-8:00 AM).   
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			November 5, 2002, 13:41
			
			
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			Ignore this, I've sorted it now 
 
right so the order should be... 
 
Eps (GMT) 
ruby (CST)  
freaelin (CST) 
Gyromancer (EST) 
 
has anyone else hosted a pbem game in PTW yet ?, i have been going thru it but not surprisingly the manual doesn't seem to correspond with the UI. 
 
it says that you should be able to "add human player" and a dialog box should come up so you can enter the palyer's details.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:44
			
			
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			I suspect its similar to hot seat, and that's how the hot seat operates.   
I found the interface for hot seat somewhat counter-intuitive..probably because the y started with the network play interface, and just modified it to accomodate the hot seat and PBEM play.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 13:50
			
			
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			ok when I add a human player it asks for  
 
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does everyone want to add these details ? or just leave them blank ? 
 
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			If you leave them blank, it'll fill them in from the Civ.  We might want to fill in the name and leave the rest blank  (it'll fill it in). 
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			November 5, 2002, 13:57
			
			
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			just my name in the blank is fine by me.  does it dictate the order of play by the order you put the names in?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			Just my name is fine as well....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			 
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			November 5, 2002, 14:19
			
			
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			Name fine for me. 
I don't know whether order of entry determines order, or if it's order of Civ, or random   .  I didn't actually play hot-seat, I just messed around and started a game, to see how it worked.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			November 5, 2002, 14:23
			
			
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			ok I'm gonna start ( I have put the barbarians on roaming) 
 
I'll start a new thread for the turns, I assume everyone is familliar with the convention of posting here when you have played your turn and sent the file on ?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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