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Old November 5, 2002, 23:56   #61
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I don't like chocolate much...

I don't like getting drunk at bars...

I hate college football and golf...

I pray for a violent revolution in this country...

I think the Beatles sucked and weren't as good as the hype...

I hate just about all pop-culture...

I want to see universal health care and free public education for all people...

I think going to war on a whim is wrong...
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Old November 5, 2002, 23:59   #62
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Messing around with ecosystems (with things such as pesticides) without knowing what exactly is going on is a bad thing.

It's high time for societies to look at total costs intead of just $ of doing things.

Religions have done far more harm than good.

Religious organisations should not be exempted from taxation.

It's okay for a man to cry.

"Equality of opportunities" is a lie.

There is no such thing as "natural rights."

Automobiles should not be allowed inside cities.

Bland shopping malls is a crime against humanity.

Internal combustion engines should be banned.

Most people are stupid.
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Old November 6, 2002, 01:11   #64
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Black leadership today is terrible and have set back race relations at least 50 years.

Not every damn thing has changed or is related to 9/11.

We are in no way more secure than we were before 9/11.

John Ashcroft has the possibility of making America a dictatorship.

We are not a war and were never at war after 9/11.

Most drugs should be legalized.

God has no place in government. (ie swearing on a Bible, In God we Trust)

Gays should be allowed to marry

Texas is by far the most irritating place to visit in AMerica.

London blows goats compared to Paris.

Some popular music is good.

Arab leaders by far have done more harm then good to their people.

America is not the land of freedom...

and Europe is not any better.

The South needs to get over the Civil War and needs to stop this state's rights BS.

I very much like getting drunk at bars.

I like to have the occasional cigarette when I do get drunk in bars.

Nobody in government cares about the fact that cigarettes cause billions of dollars in health care costs they just wanted money.

People who smoke and sue the tobacco companies are morons.

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Wow.... you know, I actually agree with most of the things that people are posting.
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Old November 6, 2002, 01:53   #66
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I am a fascist, need I say more?
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I pray for a violent revolution in this country
So do I... my people own the guns
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Too much democracy is a bad thing.
All people were not created equal.
I think that we should be able to use genetic engineering to cure any birth defect that we want, including homosexuality, which I believe is a birth defect.
Big Capitalism and Communism are equally bad.
Globilization is bad for 99% of all people.
The U.S. should deport every illegal immigrant and start defending its borders.
The war on terrorism can be won only through internal measures. A war with Iraq will not solve those problems.
I would support a war of conquest in the Middle East based solely on the desire for cheap oil.
Imperialism can be a good thing.
The U.S. primary system should be abolished.
U.S. citizens should have to earn the right to vote in elections.
Libertarians are irresponsible, selfish, and don't understand human nature.
Heterosexual relationships are fundamentally more valuable than Homosexual relationships for biological reasons.
Racism is blown way out of proportion.
Environmentalism doesn't have to be dominated by social liberals.
Violent video games and movies don't cause crimes, they are simply symptoms of a sick society.
90% of all U.S. colleges are worthless and should be closed.

..... unorthodox enough for you?
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Old November 6, 2002, 02:46   #69
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I don't care about voting Republican or Democrat because it's really voting National Socialist anyway.
They are nowhere even close to being Nazi. I'd bet you'd **** yourself if you ever met an actual Nazi.

On the other hand, I agree with you about hoping that California falls into the ocean. However, I bet that our reasons for it are different.
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Old November 6, 2002, 04:38   #70
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A guy should not have to do all of the sweet things... Where's MY Valentine's day surprise romantic getaway and stuff?

Sex is not a reasonable means for women to have equal participation in a relationship.

Charles Dickens is vastly overrated as a writer.

Coffee sucks as far as I'm concerned, but I certainly don't find it objectionable for other people to drink it.

Postmodernism is NOT a good thing.

Jews are no more entitled to have a religious-based government than any other country.

America is much closer to being a dictatorship than we like to admit.

Franklin Roosevelt did NOT get us out of the Depression.

Most people who say they are happy are in denial of their human insatiable need for more.
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Old November 6, 2002, 04:42   #71
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They are nowhere even close to being Nazi. I'd bet you'd **** yourself if you ever met an actual Nazi.
Well, I doubt I'd ever **** myself over a Nazi politician. But there really aren't many of them since neo-Nazis are either street thugs who are seriously trying to over-compensate for something, or middle aged losers with hard ons for power and massive inferiority complexes.
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The single european currency is bad for europe

My country is laughed at because we have a monarchy(only in the UK would this view be contraversial)

Pandas should be allowed to go extinct
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Ok, I am giving a fair warning up-front that this will be a fairly illogical rant. I would not endeavor to defend any of these statements, nor do I think they represent good public policy. I don't believe that these are good opinions, but that doesn't change the fact that I have them. But since this kind of thing was solicited...

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Most people, including me, are abysmally stupid, horribly illogical, and clinically insane. Humans would not be classified as sentient by any truly intelligent beings.

Privacy is bunk. If you are honest you don't need it and if you are dishonest you shouldn't have it.

People should face the consequences of their actions. Public money should not be spent on people who have done stupid things.

Social Darwinism may not be such a bad thing after all.

Wealth almost always leads to corruption and decay.

History shows that a society will always buy as much decadence as it can possibly afford.

All rich Western countries should allow unlimited and unrestricted immigration. Anyone who wants to come should be allowed to.

People should have to earn their citizenship. The process should be exactly the same no matter what country you were born in.

Most people who think they are environmentalists simply have an irrational emotional attachment to charismatic megafauna.

Any animal that cannot survive on its own deserves to go extinct.

Fishermen are short sighted fools who think they have a natural right to completely foul up vital marine ecosystems by plundering something that does not belong to them.

All environmental decisions should be made with the sole aim of improving human health and happiness. Clean water and air is vital, but endangered species are not.

Anybody who feels the need to alter their brain chemistry with any kind of chemical, including alcohol or caffeine, is a fool. Altering your consciousness is basically an admission that you do not like what you are.

All drugs should be legal. However, we should not provide any medical care for drug users. People should have the right to use as much heroin as they want, and they should have the right to die of an overdose outside the emergency room if they can't pay for their treatment.

Anybody who commits any kind of crime while under the influence of any chemical should be tried as if the crime was premeditated. Drunk drivers who kill should be charged with murder one, not manslaughter.

Capitalism is the most productive and efficient system known for giving the public what they want.

Capitalism is the most productive and efficient system known for giving the public what they deserve.

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The nation state is dead.

Europe started its uptrend around 1000 AD at the latest, not 1500s. And overtook the roman development level around 1300 at the latest.

90 % of economics is crap (controversial among economists, maybe...).

The current problem in global politics that worries me is America's weakness, not strength.

The US is a bubble eco... oh wait, that's no longer controversial, unless your name is Alan and you have your ass to save...

Just a small selection.
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Nothing ever changes.

If abortion is murder, then so is abstinence.

People are on average no happier in any age than any other.

Media has a right wing bias out of constant fear of being branded with a left wing bias.

The preferred government is a cyclical alteration between moderate right and moderate left, regardless of what your particular preference is.

Love means always having to say you're sorry.

The greatest thinkers in history are by definition unknown, as they recognize that everyone must find his own way and never publicize their message. Including this one.

Whatever your original idea, I've already discarded it as a not particularly interesting prelude to a better idea.
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90 % of economics is crap (controversial among economists, maybe...).
90% of everything is crap (but is the other 10% that really counts!!! )
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Yeah well than make it 99.9 %, based on letter volume...
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Anyone who does not put their trust in Christ will burn in hell.

Science does not contradict religion - it enforces it.

Amateur science buffs don't have a clue what they are talking about. They often treat science as a religion.

Enlightened dictatorship is more constructive than democracy because people are too stupid to know what is good for them.

Any form of 'justice' is immoral. People should only be punished with the aim of protecting society - not for revenge.

The west is neither democratic nor capitalist.

Libertarians are mentally defective, as well as amoral.

I don't find women with big breasts attractive.

I don't value people according to how much money they have.

Winston Churchill was an evil man.
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Old November 6, 2002, 10:36   #81
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"Hey Bub! I was born in Knoxville! Do you mind?"

And from everything I've seen, you were smart enough to move out. I was duped into moving here, and my wife and I are seriously thinking of moving away in the next couple of months.
I was removed bodily without my consent.


I was two.
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Unmarried gay couples should not adopt children.

(Not exactly unorthodox for a conservative Christian, but I am a liberal atheist).

Important caveat to the above:

The key word is unmarried, not gay. Married gay couples should be able to adopt: hence, I support gay marriages.

I see marriage as a civil contract in which two people agree to pool their existing and future resources. I am profoundly suspicious of those who are reluctant to do this but still want to raise kids as a couple. Committment-phobia is a bad thing in a parent.
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I was two.
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One wonders who you define unpopular or unorthoodx views - they change, depending on crowd. For instance, IRL supporting drug war wouldn't be an unorthodox belief, while being an atheist would be - in Net (At least Apolyton) it's the other way around.

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Most Weird Al stuff is not funny, it's just stupid. The reason he's so liked among the nerdkind is that he offers a nerdceptable option to listen to popular tunes, albeit with a bit different lyrics.

But then again, when discussing music, there is only one acceptable argument for band being good: "I like it". Likewise for band being bad ("I don't like it.")

"Blossom" was a good series.

12th season of Simpsons was genuinely and honestly bad. Not just bad Simpsons, bad television.

I once almost liked one of those songs Snapcase keeps pushing, but then snapped to my senses.

Yes, it was wrong, yes, it was senseless and no, it shouldn't happen again, but I bet there were more than a few bullies who tuned down on their act after Columbine - and more than a few victims who survived through the school without killing themselves by idly dreaming about massacre.

If democracy is strong enough, it can survive an more authoritarian ruler who severely bends the rules - as long as he stops short of smashing them completely. After all, Finland survived Kekkonen. Such strongman can even be good. However, it shouldn't be taken as a habit.

Knee-jerk cynicism doesn't equal wisdom.

Hypocrisy isn't nearly as bad as it's made to be.

Whether "Homophobes are secretly homosexuals" is true or not, in most of the cases saying it in a debate against a homophobe is nothing more than a progressive version of "Ha ha your fag".
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I once almost liked one of those songs Snapcase keeps pushing, but then snapped to my senses.
Which one? I need to recalibrate the missile targetting system.
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On viewing this thread, I'm starting to question whether my views on libertarians can really be described as "unpopular".
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I support legalization of drugs.

I believe that if a man does not want a child, he should have the same right as the woman has in being able not to support it (she can have an abortion if she chooses).

I believe that some politicians actually do believe in good things .
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I believe that if a man does not want a child, he should have the same right as the woman has in being able not to support it (she can have an abortion if she chooses).
don't f*ck anything that you wouldn't want to have a child with then... and last time I checked, women can't just stop supporting their children... legally anyways.

If you are irresponsible with your sex life, then you deserve to pay support for the children you bear.
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