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View Poll Results: What tech should we discover next?
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Chemistry (engineers first!)
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Democracy (Republic is a drag! end the corruption!)
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Astronomy (first step on the road to Darwin's)
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Bridge Building (need it sooner or later...)
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Other Banana Tech (explain yourself below)
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November 8, 2002, 20:10
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Deity
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Wise Men to Research -- WHAT?
What shall our wise men study? Although we have a tech lead, there's a lot of important stuff on the wish list.
The last science poll got us started on the path of Medicine (now studying) - Chemistry - Explsives (engineers!)
We should also have Democracy available soon -- HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
Our WoW poll shows we should also be working toward Darwin's Voyage. For that, we need a lot... Astronomy - Navigation (caravel, Magellan's) - Physics - Steam Engine (ironclad) - plus Bridge Building, all before we hit Railroad.
 VOTE FOR OUR NEXT TECH!!
 2 DAYS ONLY -- HYDEY NEEDS TO PLAY!!
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November 8, 2002, 20:53
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King
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Demo, it will almost double our trade
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November 8, 2002, 21:30
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Democracy. It speeds up tech research, increases income and makes cities happier places.
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November 9, 2002, 05:10
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Go with democracy, then continue on towards explosives.
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November 9, 2002, 07:33
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King
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Demo 1st, Chemistry 2nd!
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November 9, 2002, 08:34
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King
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Democracy-Game => Democracy
so we can start growing in all directions(pop/sci/improvements/WoW/money/...)
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November 9, 2002, 08:39
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Just give me the F *Ing report
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Hydey the no-limits man. :(
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November 9, 2002, 10:54
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King
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Originally posted by Hydey
Just give me the F *Ing report
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Hydey is back in the house
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November 9, 2002, 13:54
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Originally posted by Hydey
Just give me the F *Ing report
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If you've been watching the vote totals, i'm sure you can figure it out
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November 9, 2002, 14:24
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Looks like it is going to be a very definate choice to go for Democracy, and I agree. We couldn't get into Republic early enough for it to help us a whole lot, though it did speed up our tech rate and improve our trade dramatically for a couple of sessions.
I'll leave it to our new President to decide when it is safe to move to Democracy after we "discover" it. He is experienced and he knows when the Oedo years occur.
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November 9, 2002, 17:15
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Deity
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Send email to Hydey stating the obvious -- posting here too.
The ppl want Democracy. Our other goals are engineers and Darwin's Voyage/RR. If democracy is not available, pick a tech that will help toward those goals -- Astronomy/Navigation/Checmistry.
Wishing Hydey great success in his 2nd presidential term...
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November 9, 2002, 17:47
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Emperor
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Speaking of President Hydey... I asked you to let me know if you had received the save file, but I haven't heard back from you. Have you received it or not?
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November 9, 2002, 17:56
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Originally posted by cavebear
Speaking of President Hydey... I asked you to let me know if you had received the save file, but I haven't heard back from you. Have you received it or not?
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i imagine we all would have heard an earful if he hadn't received the game yet
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November 9, 2002, 19:01
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Emperor
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Get Democracy!
In the first 'Democracy' game, we never were a Democracy, going from Monarchy to Communism.
Let us get Democracy in order to exploit an unused government form-
FUNDAMENTALISM!
Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy.
I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.
Maybe our new Prez can check it out for us, see if it will really save us time.
Congrats Hydey!
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November 10, 2002, 01:22
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Deity
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Obiwan -- our society has decided to win this game by going to Alpha Centauri via representative govts. -- The republic and Democracy.
All other government forms are rejected.
Maybe we'll play for Fundy/Commie in Game 3...
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November 10, 2002, 06:45
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King
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Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy.
I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.
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Fundi cuts our sience in half.
Demo gives us more sience then any other gouverment type. (Extra trade arrows and no corruption)
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November 12, 2002, 10:48
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Originally posted by obiwan18 Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy.
I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.
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I am afraid you have it quitte backwards, Democracy will yield a much higher trade/science rate where as a fundy government has dificulty keeping up the science rate of monarchy  There have been games where a fundy government has succesfully gone to AC but we have had a few trials in this game and are only ahead of teh AI by a nose, Fundy government now would throw us back just as we were finally getting ahead.
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November 12, 2002, 14:01
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i must be tired, i can't remember what SoL is
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November 12, 2002, 14:57
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Deity
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Statue of Liberty
Is this the definitive proof that you're really a Brit?
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November 12, 2002, 18:37
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I don't advocate scientific research under fundy. It's far too slow. I do advocate a temporary Fundy gov't to boost city infrastructure.
The key with the Fundy gov't is the tithes. Building libraries and marketplaces in every city dramatically increases our tech rate when we restore Democracy. Using the tithes extorted by Mike's chapel we could accomplish this task quite quickly. What I do not know is whether we would discover more technologies by switching to fundy long enough to build marketplaces, temples and libraries in every city, and then converting back to Democracy, then we would get by staying in a Democracy.
The ratio between staying and switching depends on the number of cities. If we have a large number of small cities, then it becomes very beneficial to follow this system. Fundy tithes are proportional to the number of temples and cities, and not to the overall city size as is a Democracy. Not only does science increase, but it is much easier to go to WLPD with marketplaces everywhere.
The problem of extra trade arrows is significant. This is why I suggest 30 percent luxuries to sustain a WLPD under a fundy government. This salvages the extra trade per city square while sacrificing some tax revenue.
Agreed- we must follow representative governments. I bow to the edicts of mighty Apolyton.
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November 12, 2002, 19:47
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Doh! I knew I was going to have to smack myself for this...
No, its proof positive I've been studying for my accounting exam too much. 3 hours of rest is not enough
When was I ever thought to be british?
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November 13, 2002, 10:25
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Deity
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Figured no American Civver would miss SoL  so you must indeed be running on fumes.
(Of course, most Americans would think "SOL" to mean "sh*t out of luck"...)
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